My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil

Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?



by the grid or by a windmill at home. The energy is stored in
batteries, and in some cases batteries combined with super capacitors

"Ray Andraka" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?

by the grid or by a windmill at home.

A windmill at home is not likely to have the output to power an all-electric
car for more than a few yards.

If it's a power grid powered by coal, you're likely causing more pollution
than a car that's nicely tuned.

The energy is stored in batteries, and in some cases batteries combined
with super capacitors

Capt. Obvious strikes again "~)

When someone can explain why temps went DOWN while CO2 emissions went UP, or
why temps were much lower during epochs when CO2 was several times higher
than today, I'll buy into the ACC arguments.

Until then, my Toyota 4-Runner suits me just fine :~o

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Matt Barrow wrote:

by the grid or by a windmill at home.

A windmill at home is not likely to have the output to power an all-electric
car for more than a few yards.

you are very misinformed. a BEV needs around 300wh to go a mile, that means a windwill
that makes 1kw per hour only needs a couple of hours to make enough for a local
commute. In my case its 5miles to my job, or 1.5kwh.

If it's a power grid powered by coal, you're likely causing more pollution
than a car that's nicely tuned.

also missinformed. coal (or diesel) to electricity is over 90% efficient, versus
the 30% or so of efficiency of an internal combustion engine. more efficient is
almost always less polluting.



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Ray Andraka wrote:
Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?


by the grid or by a windmill at home. The energy is stored in
batteries, and in some cases batteries combined with super capacitors

Let's see:

Battery: Lead Acid--Lead/Sulphuric Acid
NICD--Nickle/Cadmimum
NIMH--Nickle/Metal Paste
LiON--Lithium

Capacitors: Various metals--Most poisonous

Windmill: Iron, Copper, Aluminum, misc other materials--Manufacturing of
which can be hazardous. Blades can interfer with bird flight.

Remote power generation: Coal and it's problems. Gas and it's problems.
Nuclear and IT'S problems. Hydro and it's problems.

Nothing is simple, clean and save.

Check the price of your corn flakes next time you fuel up with E85.


Dave N

"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.

Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.

Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.
--
Jim in NC

The baby fish of course!

Al G

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:02 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.

Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.

Lot of ecological side effects. Good for short term flood control, but
may cause problems long term. A lot depends on the area where the dam
is located.

Roger (K8RI)

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:58:02 -0400, "Morgans"
wrote:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.

Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.

Lot of ecological side effects. Good for short term flood control, but
may cause problems long term. A lot depends on the area where the dam
is located.

What sort of "problems"?

On 2007-10-21 14:58:02 -0700, "Morgans" said:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.

Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.

Here in the west there is considerable pressure to dismantle the dams
already in place. They are being blamed for weak salmon runs (as if
over-fishing and the recovery in the seal and sea lion population have
had nothing to do with it), concentration of heavy metals near the
dams, flooding of "critical habitat," and just about every other sin
people can think of.

There are environmentalists who believe that the worst possible thing
that could happen to the earth would be for someone to discover a
cheap, non-polluting source of energy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

These are the same people who think that we should get rid of all the people
of the world except for a few hundred of their fellow believers.


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On 2007-10-21 14:58:02 -0700, "Morgans" said:


"David G. Nagel" wrote

Hydro and it's problems.

Problems? What problems? Last I checked, hydro was clean, non
polluting,
and has the advantage of helping to control floods.

Here in the west there is considerable pressure to dismantle the dams
already in place. They are being blamed for weak salmon runs (as if
over-fishing and the recovery in the seal and sea lion population have had
nothing to do with it), concentration of heavy metals near the dams,
flooding of "critical habitat," and just about every other sin people can
think of.

There are environmentalists who believe that the worst possible thing that
could happen to the earth would be for someone to discover a cheap,
non-polluting source of energy.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor