Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war

Kevin Brooks wrote:

Those missiles?

not WMDS


Your definition of WMD's seems to change with the argument; I do
believe you previously asserted that they were not limited to
chem/bio/nuke devices? But now you seem to find the opposing
definition more suitable. How typical; if the facts don't fit the
framework you chose, change the framework, huh?


crap. simple Crap Missiles may have been a UN violation but they are
not in and of themselves weapons of mass destruction by any definition




I don't blame you; if I were you (something that I shudder to even
consider), I'd probably also have snipped without attribution the
sorry, rancid bile you previously posted that brought on the following
response.


??


Im sure you are sorry that your boy couldn't find the WMDs he promised.
But the American soldiers are just as dead.


Something that you have little concern over, I am sure.


You are wrong. I've been posting under my own name to usenet for years.
I dare you to find a single comment belittling the contribution of our
armed forces or our obligation not to waste their lives. I have spent my
entire career working in public safety. I teach safety regulation and
engineering ethics. Every life is precious. The lives of members of our
armed forces are particularly precious. My wife is a VA Physician.
Bush said it was worth Americans dying because Iraq was a threat to the
USA. He was wrong about the threat. Why he was wrong is important to me.

Im sure your suggestion

of violence can find an outlet but i'm not your punching bag.
you are welcome to show up and debate
but a real man who makes threats stands up and takes the consequences.
So are you making a threat of personal injury or not?


Vkince, I am not in the threats business, just as you are not in the
backbone business.


then don't make threats.

When you *do*, as you have done in the past, go out
of your way to invite someone so demonstrably incensed by your
putrescent nature to a personal encounter, it would be reasonable for
that party to accept that as a challenge.

To an intellectual encounter sure, I'll debate you anytime.
If you are saying you have no self control in the face of contrary
opinions, that is a useful piece of information. We lock people up who
dont have self control and commit violent acts.

But, again lacking that
required backbone, you follow up with your usual barricade of "if you
do show up, I'll file suit" crap. Which allows you to I guess, in your
little twisted world, maintain some illusion of bravado on your part,
without of course placing yourself at any risk, which is of course
your underlying core value; "never risk yourself, no matter what".

You seem to be seething with the desire to beat the crap out of someone
because he disagrees with you. I finds this interesting. do you think a
point in a debate is better because it is made by someone who is big
and strong and violent?

I
guess that your previous brush with the concept of reality did however
have one beneficial outcome--I have not noticed you hurling about your
Nazi incriminations with the same carelessness you previously
demonstrated.

Oh Ill oblige. Nazis certainly responded to opposing opinions with
personal violence by thugs. In the night of the long knives Hitler
personally used violence on his prior supporters. In the Nazi world
violence or force is the ultimate arbiter.

In the end you remain one of those slimy little cretins
who never could bring yourself to enter the arena, instead feeling
that the struggles of those within it somehow made you a bit more
courageous, especially if you are able to hurl a few rotten tomatoes
in their direction from the safety of the cheap seats.

I am in the arena, but not the one you know. We call it the "marketplace
of ideas" but it's not a "marketplace" it is an environment in which
ideas are debated discussed and refined. Because ideas after all is
what separate humanity from animals. Nature is red in tooth and claw.
Ideas are human invention.

But in reality
you would not rate as a pimple on the ass of the lowest ranking
private soldier who ever served anywhere, in any capacity. As I said
before, what a sad little excuse for a man you are.

I'm always fascinated by some people's need to be abusive of others. It
never appealed to me.

Vince