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Old April 3rd 09, 11:22 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Waldo.Pepper[_2_]
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Default German stealth bomber 2nd World war

Time does not allow me to respond in the manner that the subject
deserves. Still I am compelled to respond in near point form. to
several of your points.

The Germans did not come up with suicide planes, and never
fought to the last man, like they did in Iwo Jima.


Your language is imprecise. What is - "come up with"? Some would say
that they did. Look up Reichenberg. They came up with it, but did not
use it, operationally.

http://greyfalcon.us/Fiesler%20Fi.htm

However, they did use their Rammjaeger forces. This was arguably a
suicide mission. Quoting from the Osprey book Aviation Elite 020 -
Luftwaffe Sturmgruppen page 118.

"Oberst Herrmann's plan was to take the Sturm concept one logical step
further still. He wanted to form an all-volunteer fighter unit that
would undertake to carry out a massed attack on a USAAF heavy bomber
formation not using cannon, with ramming as a last resort, but with
the intention from the outset deliberately to ram.

As a sop to the sensibilities of the more conservatively minded in the
OKL, it was pointed out that this would not be a suicide mission.
Great stress was laid upon the fact that the pilot had every chance of
surviving a mid-air collision, as witness the many previous instances
of Sturm pilots having done just that. But as the volunteers would be
flying standard Bf 109 fighters rather than heavily armoured
Sturmbocke, the odds on survival would not be high!"

As for your contention that they never fought to the last man. I MAY
agree with this. But then I would delve further and ask why? (Or why
did the Japanese on occassion fight to the last man). And the answer I
would come up with is that the Germans were given the chance to
surrender and the Japanese were not.

Read the following to understand what I am driving at.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_..._and_civilians

When prisoners were needed, for their intelligence value for example,
it was NEVER difficult to obtain them. For further on this read the
John W. Dower book. It is both excellent and eye-opening.

Germany fought 'our' type of war.


I understand what you are getting at. And in the past I may have
asserted the same thing too. But I now think that this is imprecise.
Verging on flat out wrong.

Germany did not fight "out type of war" on the Eastern Front. When
times get tough enough there is no our type of war.

I was taught the sole reason for the A-bombs to hit Japan was the
believe that the US would have to fight every man woman and child in every
Japanese street, at unbelievable cost in human lives for the US armed
forces.


With respect Ron but what you were taught was wrong. There never is a
sole reason for any decision. Truman had no compunction against using
it against Germany had resistance not collapsed and the need remained.

Back to the subject of German stealth bombers... if anyone wants to
see what one was like - take a blank napkin and draw any adolescent
fantasy you can dream up. Then you will have what they managed to
accomplish toward the end of the war. A fantasy paper only project
which does not deserve further discussion.

Waldo.


 




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