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"robert arndt" wrote in message om... No A-bomb was dropped on Germany Didnt say it was and the Reds did all the real fighting on the ground... so you didn't win with any specific weapons just NUMBERS OF MEN AND MATERIAL Having destroyed Germany's synthetic oil plants by strategic bombing and devastated its transport infrasructure. - a deluge NO army in history could win against. Of course the Germans DID fight non-stop for 6 years and They werent bright enough to realise invading Russia AND declaring war on the USA wasnt smart introduced incredible weapons that influenced the way we fight war for 6 decades now. And they did it under TOTAL BOMBARDMENT. The US was NEVER BOMBED and Britain only marginally compared to Germany. Because Britain managed to use its scientific resources to build 1) An effective air defense system 2) An effective long range bomber force How many weapons would the US have produced under total bombardment? How come we had every advantage and only claim the A-bomb, radar, and the P-51D Mustang? The US should have produced everyhting the Germans did... but did not. No, it produced useful weapons instead of supersonic phallic symbols with no military value. To wit Efficient air dropped homing torpedoes and long range maritime patrol aircraft that decimated the u-boats The proximity fuse that was responsible for improving the efficiency of AA by almost an order of magnitude Centimetric radar that allowed the allied nightfighters to destroy German hightfighters over their own bases, find the U-boats at night and allowed British airctaft from malta to find and sink Rommel's transports at night Efficient logistical systems using practical developments such as standard containers to keep the armies supplied Programmble computers that allowed the codebreakers to read German cipher traffic so fast that by 1944 Eisenhower would be reading Hitlers orders to Rommel at the same time Rommel did, etc etc And if you think the Allies are so great why then did they send all their experts into Germany hunting for secret weapons and every scrap of technology they could find? Wright Field held thousands of TONs of captured documents- the largest brain-drain and theft of entire nation in history. Because looting is what winners do, And you dare to say no one benefitted from it? Bull****. I didnt say anything of the sort, I merely pointed out that it didnt benefit GERMANY You're a joke Keith. My next door neighbor was in the OSS. He died in 1981 but before he did I asked him what exactly they found in Germany. He told me something I'll never forget, "among the jets and rockets we found things that we could not comprehend at the time". He actually was there and saw the stuff. You didn't, so **** off. My father was there Herr Arndt, he saw more than rockets and jets, he saw Bergen Belsen. I grew up in a British city in the 50's where the ruins of bombed out buildings were a normal part of life. My best friend at school was the son of a German jew who came to Britain in 1936 and helped ICI build its synthetic fuel plant, NONE of the rest of his family survived the camps. The Nazi state was brutal corrupt and above all inefficient. In every measure of arms production they lagged behind in productivity. Despite their control of all the resources of Western Europe, Britain alone outproduced Germany in fighter and bomber aircraft and artillery and tanks. In 1943 and 1944 with a vast Soviet army headed their way and an Anglo American army chewing them up in Italy they decided to build not masses of anti-tank weapons but a rocket with no military value. This criminal waste of irreplaceable resources and manpower is what you are so proud of and yet it in fact only served helped hasten the defeat of the Reich. Keith |
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