The rudder waggle signal does not work

There are only two possible in-flight signals initiated by the tow
pilot.....wing rock, rudder waggle...that's it.

I learned these in about lesson two of my training and have remembered
them ever since . I teach these to my students and they seem to have
no trouble remembering. It's not hard.

To me, a visual signal is a far better form of communication than a
radio braodcast.

The visual signal is quick, simple, to the point, obvious, etc....

Somebody already stated the possible "possible problems with relying
on radio"...there are many....

The low tech solution wins out by far!


Cookie

On Jul 23, 5:33*am, "
wrote:

I learned these in about lesson two of my training and have remembered
them ever since . * I teach these to my students and they seem to have
no trouble remembering. *It's not hard.

[...]
The low tech solution wins out by far!

Cookie

Right. And that part of the lesson might start out, "there are two
things the tow plane can signal you about, 1) something's wrong with
the tow plane, 2) something's wrong with your glider...."

This is simple as dirt.

-Evan Ludeman / T8

On Jul 23, 7:26*am, T8 wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:33*am, "



wrote:
I learned these in about lesson two of my training and have remembered
them ever since . * I teach these to my students and they seem to have
no trouble remembering. *It's not hard.

[...]
The low tech solution wins out by far!

Cookie

Right. *And that part of the lesson might start out, "there are two
things the tow plane can signal you about, 1) something's wrong with
the tow plane, 2) something's wrong with your glider...."

This is simple as dirt.

-Evan Ludeman / T8

Love that way of thinking....makes it crystal clear...will use in
training from now on!


Cookie

I find it real easy, I just refuse to fly where there are no Aircraft
VHF radios in the tow planes, and the tow pilots know how to use them.
No problems on meaning of rudder waggle, to me it means "Ready to
commence Tow".

Real simple, real easy, really works. Many times when I was in
training I got behind a tow plane/pilot that was doing something I
certaintly didn't undderstand, like going downwind from the airport 5+
miles when it was howling, a simple radio transmission would have told
me he was "Looking for Lift" but in a L-13 he'd better take me an
extra 3,000 feet high to be sure I could get back! Since he didn't I
stasyed on till he finally came back to the airport area.

Oh, and for you sceptics on radios working, I always call the tow on
the grid to let him know who I am. If no answer, no flight until it's
remedied.

Wayne, The JayWalker

On Jul 23, 2:33*am, "
wrote:
There are only two possible in-flight signals initiated by the tow
pilot.....wing rock, rudder waggle...that's it.

I learned these in about lesson two of my training and have remembered
them ever since . * I teach these to my students and they seem to have
no trouble remembering. *It's not hard.

To me, a visual signal is a far better form of communication than a
radio braodcast.

The visual signal is quick, simple, to the point, obvious, etc....

Somebody already stated the possible "possible problems with relying
on radio"...there are many....

The low tech solution wins out by far!

Cookie

The low tech solution is not "winning by far"-it's a blatant failure
and why we are talking about this.

It's great how things should be clear and should work. Except they are
not and don't and people are being repeatedly killed by the same
problem.

Darryl

On Jul 23, 12:32*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Jul 23, 2:33*am, "





wrote:
There are only two possible in-flight signals initiated by the tow
pilot.....wing rock, rudder waggle...that's it.

I learned these in about lesson two of my training and have remembered
them ever since . * I teach these to my students and they seem to have
no trouble remembering. *It's not hard.

To me, a visual signal is a far better form of communication than a
radio braodcast.

The visual signal is quick, simple, to the point, obvious, etc....

Somebody already stated the possible "possible problems with relying
on radio"...there are many....

The low tech solution wins out by far!

Cookie

The low tech solution is not "winning by far"-it's a blatant failure
and why we are talking about this.

It's great how things should be clear and should work. Except they are
not and don't and people are being repeatedly killed by the same
problem.

Darryl- Hide quoted text -

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The "signal" is not a failure nor the problem.....the pilot(s) who
were not familiar with the signal, after taking off with open
spoilers were the failure point(s).....


Cookie