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"Republican Double Standard" wrote in message . 1.4... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in : "Republican Double Standard" wrote in message . 1.4... Chad Irby wrote in news:AOM8c.344123$Po1.263958 @twister.tampabay.rr.com: In article , Tempest wrote: Let's be real here. If we were being "real," this whole silly story would have died about four years back. Why is that Kerry's statements to congress in 1971 are of critical importance Becuase his statement, based upon what was proven to be horsecrap (i.e, the "Winter Soldier Investigation") is a documented fact. but Bush AWOL Unsubstantiated (despite repeated efforts by many to prove it); there is a fifference between a fact and an unsubstantiated claim. Actually, the refutations are unsubstantiated. Thank goodness you are not responsible for justice in this nation; I presume your approach is "guilty until proven innocent"? Face it, there has been no solid case made that he did not perform the service he was obligated to perform--lots of "could have's", "maybe's", and "it appears", all from folks with an axe to grind, but nothing substantial. Which is why this is a non-issue for the voters. Desertion Unsubstantiated (despite repeated efforts by many to prove it); FYI, there is a fifference between a fact and an unsubstantiated claim. Substantiated and no evidence ever offered to refute: http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc9.gif "Lt. Bush has not been observed at this unit during the period of report. A civilian occupation made it necessary for him to move to Montgomery, Alabama. He cleared this base on 15 May 1972 and has been performing equivalent training in a non-flying status with the 187 TAC recon Gp, Dannelly ANG Base, Alabama." [signed] "William D. Harris, Jr. Lt Col. Pilot, Flt Intcp" "Jerry D. Killian, Lt. Col. Squadron Commander" Both signatures dated 2 May 1973 [50 weeks after the date Bush "cleared this base."] http://users.cis.net/coldfeet/doc5.gif "Application for Reserve Assignment, Bush, George W, 1sr Lt "TAG Texas "1. Application for Reserve Assignment for First Lieutenant Bush is returned. "2. A review of his Master Personel Record shows he has a Military Service Obligation until 26 May 1974. Under provisions of paragraph 30-6 n (4), AFM 35-3, an obligated Reservist can be assigned to a specific Ready Reserve position only. Therefore, he is ineligible for assignment to an Air Reserve Squadron." signed by The Director of Personnel Resources on 24 May 1972. 9 days *after* Bush "cleared" his prior posting. Bush failed to return to his post in Texas for another 47 weeks after that. That is desertion of duty. You cannot spin it any other way. You can pull strings (if your Poppy) but you cannot change the fact that Bush's transfer request was denied and he still failed to return to his post for nearly a year. Zzzz...oh, you had a point? No? Just more less-than-convincing speculation? Yes, I can spin it another way--at least one former memeber of the ALANG has come forward and stated he remembers Bush attending equivalent training (ET) during that time period. Had a 1LT who did that with our unit (he was out of PA); good guy (we ended up accepting an interstate transfer of him into our unit later)--we sent the supporting documents back to his unit--where they were "misplaced". His subsequent close-out OER from his old PA unit indicated he had been AWOL; took the intervention of O-5/6 level folks to get that one cleared up. That was just about six or seven years ago--and you find the lack of records in a *thirty* year old case hard to swallow? One can only guess that you have no experience with military recordkeeping (or lack thereof). The fact is he got his HD. Now, I am guessing you are going to be much more antagonistic to the application of "could have", "maybe", etc., to your little buddy JFKII. Let's see... he "could have" pulled some quick ones to get those PH's for non-lost-duty "wounds" so he could get his butt out of Vietnam early (real early), "maybe" he pulled some strings to get his early release from active duty, and "maybe" he did none of his *own* reserve committment (he did have one, you may recall--where is the documentation showing he preformed *any* reserve duty, even the obligatory annual appearance/update of files?)... Hey, he's guilty until proven innocent, right? Good for the goose, good for the gander? HRP failure Even worse; pure speculation based upon faulty reasoning (his unit no longer had a nuclear role by 1972). As explained, any flight officer was subject to HRP. As another poster has already noted, you missed a part of that--applied to nuclear armed units. failure to show up for a drug test Eh? Drug-testing was not a regular feature in the military in 1972; http://www.prospect.org/print/V15/3/reich-r.html "The Air Force initiated a new drug-testing program, coincidentally, in April of 1972." LOL! Like *Reich* would know? You'll have to come up with a better source. http://www.newsmax.com/showinside.sh...00/6/17/220615 "New guidelines implemented in 1972 required that officers like Bush be asked, "Do you now or have you ever used or experimented with any drug, other than prescribed by a physician (to include LSD, marijuana, hashish, narcotics or other dangerous drugs as determined by the attorney-general of the United States)?" "Bush was also supposed to take a physical that included a urine drug test within a month of his July birthday. But in May 1972, he took a leave of absence from the Guard to work on the Senate campaign of Winton Blount, a friend of George Bush Sr., then a Texas congressman." Now, you aren't going to argue with NewsMax, are you? Yeah. Source for the date when drug testing became a standard feature? I went through pages and pages on Google trying to find a date for the initiation of military drug testing--one source indicated 1980, another alluded to 1974. Nothing else more concrete. No statistics for drug testing results in the military until 1979. Odd, huh? Can you do better? Brooks |
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