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Old November 18th 03, 01:56 AM
ChuckSlusarczyk
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In article , Ron Wanttaja says...


Maybe with todays technology that could be achievable.But for right now
all I can do is repeat what one of my Aero teachers said " the Indians knew
which end of the arrow to put the feathers" and "when did you ever see birds
with their tails where their beaks oughta be?" Although flying wings are
achieving with computers flight efficiency that here to fore was impossible with
pilot only control systems. Northrop was farther advanced with airframes then
the electronics industry was with computers.

See ya

Chuck


I wonder what one could do with a canard if you eliminated the need to have
the main wing stall before the canard? Seems like a fly-by-wire sort of
system could sense when the wing was about to stall and limit canard
up-travel to prevent it happening. Or the plane could incorporate a system
to provide sudden downforce if the plane started to pitch up
(compressed-air jets in the nose, etc.). Seems a pity that you have to
avoid operations at the wing's highest efficiency points in an otherwise
efficient design.



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Old November 18th 03, 03:28 AM
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

"when did you ever see birds with their tails where
their beaks oughta be?"


When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde

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Old November 18th 03, 12:32 PM
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In article , Dave Hyde says...

Yup that sure would have changed that Turkeys perspective.He no longer was
seeing where he was going but where he was.

Chuck (I turkey hunt with a shot gun) S


ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

"when did you ever see birds with their tails where
their beaks oughta be?"


When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde


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Old November 18th 03, 05:56 PM
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Dave Hyde wrote:

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:


"when did you ever see birds with their tails where
their beaks oughta be?"



When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde


I got a chicken at 80 once. The weirdest part was cleaning the egg off
the hood.

B.S.

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Old November 18th 03, 10:39 PM
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On 18 Nov 2003 07:56 AM, Ben Sego posted the following:
Dave Hyde wrote:

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:


"when did you ever see birds with their tails where
their beaks oughta be?"



When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde


I got a chicken at 80 once. The weirdest part was cleaning the egg
off the hood.

B.S.


2 grouse, 1 canada goose, numerous crows, and a seagull.

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Old November 18th 03, 11:13 PM
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Del Rawlins wrote:
On 18 Nov 2003 07:56 AM, Ben Sego posted the following:

Dave Hyde wrote:


ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:



"when did you ever see birds with their tails where
their beaks oughta be?"


When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde


I got a chicken at 80 once. The weirdest part was cleaning the egg
off the hood.

B.S.



2 grouse, 1 canada goose, numerous crows, and a seagull.

Gentlemen, I think we have a winner. Or dinner, perhaps, in the case of
the goose...

B.S.

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Old November 19th 03, 03:10 AM
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On 18 Nov 2003 01:13 PM, Ben Sego posted the following:

2 grouse, 1 canada goose, numerous crows, and a seagull.

Gentlemen, I think we have a winner. Or dinner, perhaps, in the case
of the goose...


Unfortunately in Alaska roadkill belongs to the state and there was
somebody behind me. Up to that point I hadn't committed a crime, but
stopping and throwing it in the back would have been and I know people
who have gotten in trouble with the state fish and game dept. for dumber
things. That goose committed suicide; it and another goose had been
sitting at the edge of the road eating gravel. It's buddy flew away
from the road, and it flew right at my truck.

A few weeks ago I came home to a goose sitting in my front lawn, it let
me take pictures and even video of it before it got up and walked away.
Unfortunately there were too many eyes around. Had he shown the poor
judgement to land in my back yard, his next stop would have been my
freezer. Since I live under the pattern at Merrill Field I could always
claim I was enhancing aviation safety:

http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/goose.avi

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Old November 19th 03, 08:27 AM
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A few weeks ago I came home to a goose sitting in my front lawn, it let
me take pictures and even video of it before it got up and walked away.
Unfortunately there were too many eyes around. Had he shown the poor
judgement to land in my back yard, his next stop would have been my
freezer. Since I live under the pattern at Merrill Field I could always
claim I was enhancing aviation safety:

http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/goose.avi

Del Rawlins-

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What happened to that goose?
Looked like a prime candidate for road kill...
heading for that very busy street.

BTW....
Are you sure you were in Alaska?
I didn't notice any snow, dirt roads,
mountains, huskies, eskimos or igloos. g


Barnyard BOb - which way to Iditarod



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Old November 19th 03, 04:19 AM
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In article et, Ben Sego
says...


I don't know if he's the winner but I know he's an "Ace" :-)

Chuck ( one deer,1 pigeon and 1 bike rider) S


When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde


I got a chicken at 80 once. The weirdest part was cleaning the egg
off the hood.

B.S.



2 grouse, 1 canada goose, numerous crows, and a seagull.

Gentlemen, I think we have a winner. Or dinner, perhaps, in the case of
the goose...

B.S.


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Old November 19th 03, 07:25 AM
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Well, the seagull was only a probable since I was driving the '59 MG at
the time and not going particularly fast (honest). It hit the headlight
and bounced down the side of the car, so I didn't actually run it over.
For all I know it may have got up and flew away.

Now one of the grouse, on the other hand, was spectacular. I was south
of Delta heading north to Fairbanks, and as I topped a hill there it was
in the middle of the road. I had just enough time to notice it before
it went under, and in my rear view mirror there was just this big
indistinguishible cloud of feathers. I'm just lucky it wasn't a caribou
or a moose. Roadkill in Alaska can be grizzly at times.

Came close to nailing a porcupine a couple summers ago, which normally
destroys the tire. Since I had a full load of fresh Copper River salmon (
read: extremely time sensitive shipment) worth more than the truck on
board at the time, I would not have been amused. His number, which was
11.00-R22 (goodyear unisteel), just wasn't up that night.

On 18 Nov 2003 06:19 PM, ChuckSlusarczyk posted the following:
In article et, Ben
Sego says...

I don't know if he's the winner but I know he's an "Ace" :-)

Chuck ( one deer,1 pigeon and 1 bike rider) S

When I drove through a turkey at 65 mph.

Dave 'last thing on his mind' Hyde


I got a chicken at 80 once. The weirdest part was cleaning the egg
off the hood.


2 grouse, 1 canada goose, numerous crows, and a seagull.

Gentlemen, I think we have a winner. Or dinner, perhaps, in the case
of
the goose...


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