Why no Cannons on Police Helicopters?

Wouldnt a cannon on a police helicopter solve a lot of
problems for law enforcement?


Let's see, the average cop on the street can't hit a thing with a side arm
unless he fires 10+ shots, and you want to give them a cannon ?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

It never fails. Those who spit on the cops are members of the NRA or GOA.

iespam (N329DF) wrote in message ...
Wouldnt a cannon on a police helicopter solve a lot of
problems for law enforcement?


Let's see, the average cop on the street can't hit a thing with a side arm
unless he fires 10+ shots, and you want to give them a cannon ?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

On 18 Apr 2004 10:06:25 -0700, (miso) wrote:

It never fails. Those who spit on the cops are members of the NRA or GOA.

It never fails. Those who support police murders aren't.

--
More blood for oil... in my name!

(miso) wrote in
om:

It never fails. Those who spit on the cops are members of the NRA or
GOA.

That's hilarious,considering the NRA -runs- many police training
programs,and many police are NRA members.
IOW,you don't know what you're talking about.


iespam (N329DF) wrote in message
...
Wouldnt a cannon on a police helicopter solve a lot of
problems for law enforcement?


Let's see, the average cop on the street can't hit a thing with a
side arm unless he fires 10+ shots, and you want to give them a
cannon ?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA




--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

I know exactly what I am talking about. The NRA types need to diss the
police to justify their need for weapons. They do it all the time. It
makes the sane gun owners look bad. GOA types are worse. [GOA = Gone
On Arrival]

Jim Yanik wrote in message ...
(miso) wrote in
om:

It never fails. Those who spit on the cops are members of the NRA or
GOA.

That's hilarious,considering the NRA -runs- many police training
programs,and many police are NRA members.
IOW,you don't know what you're talking about.


iespam (N329DF) wrote in message
...
Wouldnt a cannon on a police helicopter solve a lot of
problems for law enforcement?


Let's see, the average cop on the street can't hit a thing with a
side arm unless he fires 10+ shots, and you want to give them a
cannon ?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

I know exactly what I am talking about. The NRA types need to diss the
police to justify their need for weapons. They do it all the time. It
makes the sane gun owners look bad. GOA types are worse. [GOA = Gone
On Arrival]

Hey Miso,
You better check your facts, I did not dis the cops, just stating facts, the
average cops knows nothing bout the arms they carry, have barely enough
training in how to use them, and have the worse hit to rounds fired in a stress
fire situation. There is a reason cops carry hi-cap magazines, they need them
to hit anything. The average citizen that carries for protection, in a stress
fire situation, hits thier target more often, using fewer shots fired. The
average citizen knows more about firearms than the cop on street. I had to
explain to a cop once on how to clear and safe a model 1911 .45 automatic, a
gun that has only been in continous production since lets see, 1911.

Now about me and the cops, I ride with the current World Champion Motorcycle
Drill Team, one of our leaders is a Phx police detective, I have ridden with
the Mesa PD motors, The California Highway Patrol motors, Tucson Police Motors
I also have person friends in the Arizona Dept of Public Safety, and the
Glendale PD.
So I have spent more time supporting the cops than you have spent on tapping
on your keyboard.

I am awaiting your appology


Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA

"N329DF" wrote in message
...
Hey Miso,
You better check your facts, I did not dis the cops, just stating facts,
the
average cops knows nothing bout the arms they carry, have barely enough
training in how to use them, and have the worse hit to rounds fired in a
stress
fire situation. There is a reason cops carry hi-cap magazines, they need
them
to hit anything. The average citizen that carries for protection, in a
stress
fire situation, hits thier target more often, using fewer shots fired. The
average citizen knows more about firearms than the cop on street. I had to
explain to a cop once on how to clear and safe a model 1911 .45 automatic,
a
gun that has only been in continous production since lets see, 1911.

Speaking solely from personal experience (cop for 25 years), I never shot
below a 95 with any handgun I carried (S&W Model 28 357, S&W Model 29 .44
Magnum, S&W Model 4006 .40 cal) and usually shot a 98. I shot a 100% course
with the AR-15, open sights, over ranges of 50-200 yards, firing at
silhouette targets, every year for five years. These courses were Law
Enforcement Academy designed and approved, timed, and monitored.

The civilians I know who shot in high stress situations managed to hit a
relative about half the time, and that was because they were too sleepy to
duck. Two officers I know personally were engaged by a civilian who stood
at the top of an enclosed staircase in an apartment, and fired six rounds at
them as they climbed the stairs. He missed both officers. He was aiming.
(They were really p....ed when they got to the top of those stairs... deaf,
but pi...ed.)

Very rarely does the armed citizen who fires and misses ever tell anybody
about it. Their reporting standards are nothing like the reporting
standards used when an officer discharges a weapon. I would advise a bit of
caution when trying to compare data under those circumstances.

grin I remember a deer hunter who claimed to have killed a large buck
with a single shot. His cousin in another group mentioned in passing that
they had heard many rounds... "He must mean he only hit him once, I guess."

Don H.

"Don Harstad" wrote in message
...

"N329DF" wrote in message
...
Hey Miso,
You better check your facts, I did not dis the cops, just stating facts,
the
average cops knows nothing bout the arms they carry, have barely enough
training in how to use them, and have the worse hit to rounds fired in a
stress
fire situation. There is a reason cops carry hi-cap magazines, they need
them
to hit anything. The average citizen that carries for protection, in a
stress
fire situation, hits thier target more often, using fewer shots fired.
The
average citizen knows more about firearms than the cop on street. I had
to
explain to a cop once on how to clear and safe a model 1911 .45
automatic,
a
gun that has only been in continous production since lets see, 1911.

Speaking solely from personal experience (cop for 25 years), I never shot
below a 95 with any handgun I carried (S&W Model 28 357, S&W Model 29 .44
Magnum, S&W Model 4006 .40 cal) and usually shot a 98. I shot a 100%
course
with the AR-15, open sights, over ranges of 50-200 yards, firing at
silhouette targets, every year for five years. These courses were Law
Enforcement Academy designed and approved, timed, and monitored.

The civilians I know who shot in high stress situations managed to hit a
relative about half the time, and that was because they were too sleepy to
duck. Two officers I know personally were engaged by a civilian who stood
at the top of an enclosed staircase in an apartment, and fired six rounds
at
them as they climbed the stairs. He missed both officers. He was aiming.
(They were really p....ed when they got to the top of those stairs...
deaf,
but pi...ed.)

Speaking as an ignorant grunt, does it not scare you ****less that a
'citizen' is armed in the first place? It's hardly as if he's fending away
Indians from the homestead.


Very rarely does the armed citizen who fires and misses ever tell anybody
about it. Their reporting standards are nothing like the reporting
standards used when an officer discharges a weapon. I would advise a bit
of
caution when trying to compare data under those circumstances.

grin I remember a deer hunter who claimed to have killed a large buck
with a single shot. His cousin in another group mentioned in passing that
they had heard many rounds... "He must mean he only hit him once, I
guess."

Don H.

(miso) wrote in
om:

I know exactly what I am talking about. The NRA types need to diss the
police to justify their need for weapons.

No,we realize that the police are not always around to protect us,so it
falls to ourselves to do so,and we want the best tools for the job.
Clue;the 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting or "sporting purposes".

You still don't know what you're talking about.

They do it all the time. It
makes the sane gun owners look bad. GOA types are worse. [GOA = Gone
On Arrival]

Jim Yanik wrote in message
...
(miso) wrote in
om:

It never fails. Those who spit on the cops are members of the NRA
or GOA.

That's hilarious,considering the NRA -runs- many police training
programs,and many police are NRA members.
IOW,you don't know what you're talking about.


iespam (N329DF) wrote in message
...
Wouldnt a cannon on a police helicopter solve a lot of
problems for law enforcement?


Let's see, the average cop on the street can't hit a thing with a
side arm unless he fires 10+ shots, and you want to give them a
cannon ?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA





--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Come on, you know the 2nd amendment refers to a state militia. What
part of "well regulated" don't you understand.

Getting back to the Gone On Arrival dude, he made a blanket statement
that cops can't shoot. Read it and enjoy the odor of the company. He
hates cops, pure and simple, and that attitude is very common in the
NRA and Gone On Arrival crowd.

Jim Yanik wrote in message ...
(miso) wrote in
om:

I know exactly what I am talking about. The NRA types need to diss the
police to justify their need for weapons.

No,we realize that the police are not always around to protect us,so it
falls to ourselves to do so,and we want the best tools for the job.
Clue;the 2nd Amendment is NOT about hunting or "sporting purposes".

You still don't know what you're talking about.

They do it all the time. It
makes the sane gun owners look bad. GOA types are worse. [GOA = Gone
On Arrival]

Jim Yanik wrote in message
...
(miso) wrote in
om:

It never fails. Those who spit on the cops are members of the NRA
or GOA.

That's hilarious,considering the NRA -runs- many police training
programs,and many police are NRA members.
IOW,you don't know what you're talking about.


iespam (N329DF) wrote in message
...
Wouldnt a cannon on a police helicopter solve a lot of
problems for law enforcement?


Let's see, the average cop on the street can't hit a thing with a
side arm unless he fires 10+ shots, and you want to give them a
cannon ?
Matt Gunsch,
A&P,IA,Private Pilot
Riding member of the
2003 world champion drill team
Arizona Precision Motorcycle Drill Team
GWRRA,NRA,GOA