A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Soaring
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

The highly successful UK Junior XC program vs. USA's nonexistantJunior XC program. Why?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #23  
Old September 29th 15, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Sean Fidler
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1,005
Default The highly successful UK Junior XC program vs. USA's nonexistantJunior XC program. Why?

Some insight from a British leader. The USA has a long, long way to go...

"Hi Sean
Saw your posts on the above subject and thought I would try to flesh it out a bit.
I was lucky enough to be involved with the UK Junior Nats this year, as I was ******************** in the Regionals that was held alongside the Juniors. We had the same tasks but had a different start line to keep us apart and we started later.....the idea being we might give some clues as we overtook the stragglers from the Juniors as we went through...The juniors gliders ranged from a K6cr to ASG29 with just about everything in between, so no easy job for the task setter.
There were also an entrant from the German Junior training program who came along to take notes as well as fly.

The UK Junior training thing is sooooo much more than just gliding and has taken more than +10 years to get where it is now. Both the Task Setter and Contest Director were Juniors from the first couple of years of the program. There is also a sizeable group of recently ex-Juniors who always tag along. At least 2 of the 6 two seaters that were being used for training were being flown by recent ex juniors. All of these 2 seaters were loaned free of charge from both clubs and individuals. Each 2 seater had 2 pupils for the week taking turns day about. Post task the 2 seaters were put to work for the less experienced covering more basic skills. For the 12 places available for the 2 seaters they had more than 50 applicants.

Having not been a junior for several decades...(OK I'll fes up I'm **) I went along to their first debriefing session and, after it made a point to go to all the others that followed...despite being ex instructor and ex Chief Flying Instructor I gained a huge insight as these debriefings were very well conducted, the Master of Ceremonies at these debriefs is worth his weight in Gold.

The original program started with what were termed (locally) Flying Circus's going round the clubs that requested them. It started with one but quickly went to two.
Each Circus had one good 2 seater, plus suitable coach/senior comp pilot/instructor. They also had another similar qualified pilot with their own glider. Often a local was also inveigled...often the local Chief Flying Instructor with their own glider. These two carried out lead and follow X/C with up to 5 students flying whatever they had anything from K-8 to Discus. Each student also got a day in the 2 seater during the week. Most training weeks also seemed to get hold of a nice glider for the students to convert into at the end of the week to give them the taste of the 'high life' as many of the small clubs at that time did not run to anything better than an Astir at best!
The circle has come round again as the BGA has started this idea up again under the "Aim Higher" initiative which is aimed at the older pilots who for whatever reason are stuck in a rut. So there is nothing new.....

Oh one bit of advice if you get involved with juniors.......never ever go to the bar with them after flying...their livers and kidneys cope far better than yours !

Best Regards,"
 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ten Reasons to Add a Junior Program to Your Glider Club XC Soaring 14 October 9th 14 12:39 PM
E6-B program for HP 15C Chris W Piloting 5 June 12th 05 03:17 AM
L.A.R.K. Program Flyingmonk Home Built 6 April 15th 05 02:23 AM
Program about the B-26 vincent p. norris Military Aviation 1 January 1st 04 02:41 AM
Van's C of G program Ray Toews Home Built 5 September 30th 03 02:20 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.