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Old August 22nd 04, 05:04 PM
Jim Yanik
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Pooh Bear wrote in
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"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ina/tu-22m.htm

Two part question; first, do you think that China will actually
succeed in it's acquisition attempts regarding the Backfire, and if
so, how many would they end up with?


Irrelevant


Second, what does this mean to the the US?


Bugger all !

China needs the USA ( and the rest of the western world ) to trade
with. That's how they are modernising their country via a significant
trade surplus. Otherwise it's back to the paddy fields.

The Chinese have essentially become capitalists today. Just like the
Russians too. They just don't like to admit it much.

The Cold War is over - or did someone forget to mention it to you ?


Graham - who has actually visited the PRC on business.


p.s where do you think most consumer goods are manufactured these days
?



you seem to not believe that the mainland Chinese are going to attack
Taiwan sooner or later to being them back under Communist control,and that
the US would not use it's carrier groups to oppose that move.

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Old August 23rd 04, 03:43 AM
Pooh Bear
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Jim Yanik wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in
:

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ina/tu-22m.htm

Two part question; first, do you think that China will actually
succeed in it's acquisition attempts regarding the Backfire, and if
so, how many would they end up with?


Irrelevant


Second, what does this mean to the the US?


Bugger all !

China needs the USA ( and the rest of the western world ) to trade
with. That's how they are modernising their country via a significant
trade surplus. Otherwise it's back to the paddy fields.

The Chinese have essentially become capitalists today. Just like the
Russians too. They just don't like to admit it much.

The Cold War is over - or did someone forget to mention it to you ?


Graham - who has actually visited the PRC on business.


p.s where do you think most consumer goods are manufactured these days
?


you seem to not believe that the mainland Chinese are going to attack
Taiwan sooner or later to being them back under Communist control,and that
the US would not use it's carrier groups to oppose that move.


There's too much to lose in an actual 'shooting war'.

Posturing is another matter.

Hong Kong hasn't become or been forced to be 'Communist' btw since becoming a
special administrative region.


Graham

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Old August 23rd 04, 02:40 PM
Jim Yanik
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Pooh Bear wrote in
:

Jim Yanik wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in
:

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...ina/tu-22m.htm

Two part question; first, do you think that China will actually
succeed in it's acquisition attempts regarding the Backfire, and
if so, how many would they end up with?

Irrelevant


Second, what does this mean to the the US?

Bugger all !

China needs the USA ( and the rest of the western world ) to trade
with. That's how they are modernising their country via a
significant trade surplus. Otherwise it's back to the paddy fields.

The Chinese have essentially become capitalists today. Just like
the Russians too. They just don't like to admit it much.

The Cold War is over - or did someone forget to mention it to you ?


Graham - who has actually visited the PRC on business.


p.s where do you think most consumer goods are manufactured these
days ?


you seem to not believe that the mainland Chinese are going to attack
Taiwan sooner or later to being them back under Communist control,and
that the US would not use it's carrier groups to oppose that move.


There's too much to lose in an actual 'shooting war'.


At some point in China's modernization,they may decide they can go it alone
or just trade with counties such as France and Germany.

Posturing is another matter.


Who wants to gamble on it being 'posturing'?
They've STATED they intend to retake Taiwan,and their actions in
modernizing their military support this.


Hong Kong hasn't become or been forced to be 'Communist' btw since
becoming a special administrative region.


HK is slowly being converted.(the 'boil the frog' concept)
You need to keep up with the news.




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Old August 24th 04, 02:09 AM
Pooh Bear
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Jim Yanik wrote:

Pooh Bear wrote in
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There's too much to lose in an actual 'shooting war'.


At some point in China's modernization,they may decide they can go it alone
or just trade with counties such as France and Germany.


With regard to that specific point, don't forget that France and Germany are in
the EU. Selective trade with certain EU members only would attract the
attention of the European Comission which would embargo such a stance (
assuming that France and Germany for example were even dumb enought to go along
with such a situation in the first place ). Also there is free trade in the EU.

It makes as much sense as suggesting that you could trade with Texas and
California but not the rest of the USA.

Graham

 




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