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I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling
anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase? |
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On Sat, 3 May 2008 12:35:13 -0400, Linton Yarbrough
wrote: I don't get the reason for the Cozy or the Velocity (which isn't selling anyway) from the standpoint of speed, comfort, etc. The $$$ come out the same for the most part and you don't have composite issues or trouble getting things fixed. Pusher/tractor preferences aside, am I missing something that would or does make one of the canards a better purchase? not necessarily. you only get the performance figures *after* you've built the design and flown it. aviation is littered with designs that looked promising but werent. Stealth Pilot |
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Linton Yarbrough wrote:
To make matters worser, I can't build one so I have to take someone else's work. but the numbers of successful Cozys is a testament to the design. plus, you get to install a rotary-Wankel; this is good? The Cozy and the velocity were designed and intended to be used with a "certified" horizontally opposed air cooled engine. Some enterprising experimenters have used the rotary/wankel engine, with varying degrees of success. Dave |
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Peter Dohm wrote:
But the one builder that I knew who actually started flying a Wankel powered Cozy MkIV finally gave up and switched to a Lycoming O-360. From what I have heard, he was unsuccessful at cooling the Wankel; but the Lycoming is running without problems. That was Buly Aliev.. He was ready to FLY not to keep troubleshooting. Cooling is a critical issue in a pusher, and you have to make changes from stock cowling to really cool a wankel properly John Slade has been flying his for 2 years or so, and while not perfect is doing pretty good. www.canardaviation.com is his page. There is a forum to be linked to from there as well. Another forum, run by Jon Matcho (building, not flying) is Canardzone at www.canardzone.com If you are truly interested in rotary engines, check out Tracy Crook's website, at www.rotaryaviation.com. There are two rotary listservs... One is moderated and EDITED by Paul Lamar, an afficianado engineer who has not yet built nor flown a rotary powered aircraft, and tends to be more theory than practice, but highly technical at times. I unsubscribed from his list years ago and haven't missed much; folks who disagree with his findings are summarily dismissed. The other is The FlyRotary listserv where you will find the majority of folks who are building or have successfully started and flown homebuilt rotary aircraft. www.flyrotary.com All are welcome. Webbased archives available. Dave |
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on 5/4/2008, Peter Dohm supposed :
not necessarily. you only get the performance figures *after* you've built the design and flown it. aviation is littered with designs that looked promising but werent. Stealth Pilot To make matters worser, I can't build one so I have to take someone else's work. but the numbers of successful Cozys is a testament to the design. plus, you get to install a rotary-Wankel; this is good? I dunno. For an assortment of reasons, I have not been hanging around the local airport for the past couple of years. But the one builder that I knew who actually started flying a Wankel powered Cozy MkIV finally gave up and switched to a Lycoming O-360. From what I have heard, he was unsuccessful at cooling the Wankel; but the Lycoming is running without problems. The only recommendations that I can make are to look/ask on rec.aviation.homebuilt and also on the canard forum. (I have forgoten what the canard forum is really called and/or where it is located, but someone on R.A.H will be sure to know.) Peter Lint, my ex-brother-in-law has a Cozy IV and it is a super flight. He bought his already built and has never had a problem except with the front nose gear. The faster LD speeds! I think the Cozys are for those who want to build, the Mooneys for those who don't care to. |
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a Ruski!
Dave S has brought this to us : That was Buly Aliev.. |
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"Dave S" wrote in message ... Peter Dohm wrote: But the one builder that I knew who actually started flying a Wankel powered Cozy MkIV finally gave up and switched to a Lycoming O-360. From what I have heard, he was unsuccessful at cooling the Wankel; but the Lycoming is running without problems. That was Buly Aliev.. He was ready to FLY not to keep troubleshooting. Cooling is a critical issue in a pusher, and you have to make changes from stock cowling to really cool a wankel properly John Slade has been flying his for 2 years or so, and while not perfect is doing pretty good. www.canardaviation.com is his page. There is a forum to be linked to from there as well. Another forum, run by Jon Matcho (building, not flying) is Canardzone at www.canardzone.com If you are truly interested in rotary engines, check out Tracy Crook's website, at www.rotaryaviation.com. There are two rotary listservs... One is moderated and EDITED by Paul Lamar, an afficianado engineer who has not yet built nor flown a rotary powered aircraft, and tends to be more theory than practice, but highly technical at times. I unsubscribed from his list years ago and haven't missed much; folks who disagree with his findings are summarily dismissed. The other is The FlyRotary listserv where you will find the majority of folks who are building or have successfully started and flown homebuilt rotary aircraft. www.flyrotary.com All are welcome. Webbased archives available. Dave Yes, that's true; www.canardaviation.com snd www.canardzone.com are the sites I was thinking of. Peter |
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Dave S has brought this to us :
That was Buly Aliev.. "clint" wrote in message ... a Ruski! Not exactly, but trivial. OTOH, he is/was a contributor to the fuel price watch system which does seem important... Peter |
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"Gezellig" wrote in message
... ... Lint, my ex-brother-in-law has a Cozy IV and it is a super flight. He bought his already built and has never had a problem except with the front nose gear. The faster LD speeds! I think the Cozys are for those who want to build, the Mooneys for those who don't care to. Bingo -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. |
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Dave S explained on 5/4/2008 :
Linton Yarbrough wrote: To make matters worser, I can't build one so I have to take someone else's work. but the numbers of successful Cozys is a testament to the design. plus, you get to install a rotary-Wankel; this is good? The Cozy and the velocity were designed and intended to be used with a "certified" horizontally opposed air cooled engine. Some enterprising experimenters have used the rotary/wankel engine, with varying degrees of success. Dave Dave I don't need varying degrees of success. I guess as the Capt said if you want to tinker, maintain and build, then go EXP. Maybe my next assessment is Mooney vs. ??? |
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