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  #31  
Old October 27th 03, 03:24 AM
Jay Honeck
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You guyzes is clever. Thanks.

All this, and the solution is a gas can with a funnel stuck in it?

Geez, after this many days, I thought for sure you guys would come up with a
more "Jetson's-like" solution for Jim...

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Old October 27th 03, 05:06 AM
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Um, no. The wing, when one tire goes flat and the other is inflated normally,
comes within a quarter-inch of a 2x2 steel beam in the hangar roof. Another
quarter of an inch and I'll have a wing to replace some day. Not a good idea,
at least not for me.

Jim



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shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


-How unlevel is it? Just make yourself a really shallow ramp (say by
-ripping strips of 1/4" masonite and stacking/gluing them). Put that
-on the hangar floor so that you roll onto it as you park.

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Old October 27th 03, 01:43 PM
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"Jim Weir" wrote in message ...
How about pointing us to a NASCAR type fuel cell information page?

A NASCAR fuel cell is just a rubber bladder filed with a special foam. I'm not
sure what it buys you here. It's primary job in a race car is to keep the fuel from
running out at high speed if the tank is punctured or cracked (of course, it still
looks pretty flamboyant if someone rips the tank in half, the rules call for the
fuel cell to have it's own little "roll cage" to protect it).

You can get the foam from just about any race car supply house in the country.
It's pretty stock for a lot of different racing constructions. Just google for
"fuel cell foam".


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Old October 27th 03, 02:56 PM
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Jim Weir writes:

Now THERE'S a thought I hadn't considered.




-How about a bucket full of kitty litter?




It might be interesting to take a container with some small quantity
of gas-damp kitty litter and ignite it safely -- ie well clear of
any burnable stuph and with a 6' pole to set it off.

The kitty litter won't burn. The gas fumes will, and I'd assume will
the heat will evaporate 'trapped' gas....but slowly.




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Old October 27th 03, 02:59 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Geez, after this many days, I thought for sure you guys would come up with a
more "Jetson's-like" solution for Jim...


You forgot - he's gonna fill it with fuel cell foam. :-)

George Patterson
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Old October 27th 03, 03:09 PM
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"David Lesher" wrote in message
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It might be interesting to take a container with some small quantity
of gas-damp kitty litter and ignite it safely -- ie well clear of
any burnable stuph and with a 6' pole to set it off.

The kitty litter won't burn. The gas fumes will, and I'd assume will
the heat will evaporate 'trapped' gas....but slowly.


Just use the fuel soaked kitty litter in the litter box. It will keep your
cat from smoking! ;-)

Avgas or auto fuel will smell better than the used litter box.


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Old October 27th 03, 03:50 PM
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Jim Weir wrote:
: One thought is to provide a bucket with a nonflammable liquid lighter than
: gasoline. Let the gas drip into the bucket with a "blanket" of nonflammable
: liquid on top of it. The problem is finding such a liquid.

I looked around a bit, and finding the magic liquid looks tough.
According to this, however:

http://pump.net/liquiddata/wdspecgrav.htm

ammonia might work?

-Cory
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Old October 27th 03, 04:30 PM
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Hose slipped over vent and part way into can to insure no "drips" miss?

"Jim Weir" wrote in message
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That's a thought. You could enhance the probability that the gas would go

into
the can by gluing a funnel into the VENT port on the can, or by simply

drilling
a hole into the top of the can and epoxy-gluing the funnel into permanent
position. I like that idea even more, because the only evaporation THEN

is from
the little tiny funnel hole...and you could go one step further and drill

a cork
stopper with a smaller hole at the top of the funnel neck so the gas would

pass
through, but the evaporation would be much less.

You guyzes is clever. Thanks.

Jim



"MichaelR"
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-Sporty's oil mat #8667A might work, but I use an open gasoline can on

the
-floor. There's usually not much wind in a hangar, so the drips will go

right
-in once it is positioned. The small opening in the can reduces the

amount of
-evaporation you would get compared to a mat or just letting it hit the
-floor.
-Afterward, I use the fuel to run my lawnmower.
-

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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Old October 27th 03, 04:41 PM
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How about a piece of tygon tubing with a inside diameter the size of the
vent tube. Let that hang (or support it with the wing strut) and let it
drain into a gas can. If you are careful you might even be able to reuse
it. I am lucky, my 172F has never had this condition. A friend with a
150 always had it and only fueled when he got ready to fly.

I use a short piece of hose with some wire mesh in it and a orange
"flag" hanging from it. I put that over the vent tube to keep the pesky
bugs from building a nest in it. Orange flag reminds me to remove before
flight.
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Old October 27th 03, 06:04 PM
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("Jim Weir" wrote)
Sorry, no cigar. Putting a source of ignition (110 ac) in proximity to a

fuel
source isn't where I wanted to be.


One more try:

BTW, in the future, please leave out any references to cigars -
you, you, you ...politician :-)

Take the (fully sealed) lizard rock and make a 1x3 frame around it, with a
bottom board. Box should be about the size of a Cheerios box. Pour cement
around "lizard rock". (Doesn't matter what side of the lizard rock is up,
now that the whole thing is encased in cement)

In the side of the cement Cheerios box (with the "lizard rock cocooned
inside) insert a 6" piece of PVC pipe. The PVC pipe will have the power cord
running through it. Goop up the end of the PVC pipe to seal up the cord.
Might be easier to do this before the cement pour. g

Now you have a re-hearing thermal mass to set your brownie pan on top of.
Those lizard rocks get pretty warm, but not hot-hot. Do the normal (super)
insulation thing for the cement thermal mass. Don't forget the duct tape.

Whole thing should weigh as much as an old IBM Selectric typewriter. Heck,
use an old typewriter cart. High wing right?

This all assumes warming up the gasoline, by spreading it out in an old
turkey roasting pan with a thermal mass under it, will hasten evaporation.
Original brownie pan idea lacked capacity - just in case.

"Is it safe?" - Marathon Man.

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