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April 11th 07, 04:48 PM
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IFR in uncontroller airspace
Has anyone out there ever flown IFR in uncontrolled airspace without a
flight plan. I understand there are places out west that still have large tracts of uncontrolled airspace that go up to altitude (14,500 feet??). I am used to it either ending at 700 or 1200 feet AGL. Danny Deger 
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April 11th 07, 05:35 PM
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On Apr 11, 8:48 am, "Danny Deger" wrote:
Has anyone out there ever flown IFR in uncontrolled airspace without a flight plan. I understand there are places out west that still have large tracts of uncontrolled airspace that go up to altitude (14,500 feet??). I am used to it either ending at 700 or 1200 feet AGL. Danny Deger Everytime I leave my home airport IFR I'm flying IFR in uncontrolled airspace, I don't file unless I think the fog is high enough to extend into controlled airspace. Also, 75% of all my IFR in Mexico is uncontrolled. -Robert
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April 11th 07, 05:50 PM
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On 11 Apr, 16:48, "Danny Deger" wrote:
Has anyone out there ever flown IFR in uncontrolled airspace without a flight plan. I understand there are places out west that still have large tracts of uncontrolled airspace that go up to altitude (14,500 feet??). I am used to it either ending at 700 or 1200 feet AGL. Danny Deger Yeah, long time ago. Cessna 140, ADFs only.. You'd be hard pressed to find somewhere you could do it today!
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April 11th 07, 09:01 PM
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What are the airspace restrictions for uncontrolled IFR in Mexico?
I've been thinking of making a trip. --Dan On Apr 11, 9:35 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: On Apr 11, 8:48 am, "Danny Deger" wrote: Has anyone out there ever flown IFR in uncontrolled airspace without a flight plan. I understand there are places out west that still have large tracts of uncontrolled airspace that go up to altitude (14,500 feet??). I am used to it either ending at 700 or 1200 feet AGL. Danny Deger Everytime I leave my home airport IFR I'm flying IFR in uncontrolled airspace, I don't file unless I think the fog is high enough to extend into controlled airspace. Also, 75% of all my IFR in Mexico is uncontrolled. -Robert
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April 12th 07, 12:21 AM
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If it's uncontrolled, how do you know someone just like you didn't
take off in the same area, and your in IMC? On Apr 11, 9:35 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: Everytime I leave my home airport IFR I'm flying IFR in uncontrolled airspace, I don't file unless I think the fog is high enough to extend into controlled airspace. Also, 75% of all my IFR in Mexico is uncontrolled. -Robert
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April 12th 07, 04:39 AM
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"kevmor" wrote in message ups.com... If it's uncontrolled, how do you know someone just like you didn't take off in the same area, and your in IMC? On Apr 11, 9:35 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: Everytime I leave my home airport IFR I'm flying IFR in uncontrolled airspace, I don't file unless I think the fog is high enough to extend into controlled airspace. Also, 75% of all my IFR in Mexico is uncontrolled. -Robert You don't. I think the theory of uncontrolled space is there are so few planes the likelyhood of a conflict is very, very small. Danny Deger
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April 12th 07, 01:15 PM
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"Danny Deger" wrote in message ... : : "kevmor" wrote in message : ups.com... : If it's uncontrolled, how do you know someone just like you didn't : take off in the same area, and your in IMC? : : On Apr 11, 9:35 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: : Everytime I leave my home airport IFR I'm flying IFR in uncontrolled : airspace, I don't file unless I think the fog is high enough to extend : into controlled airspace. Also, 75% of all my IFR in Mexico is : uncontrolled. : : -Robert : : : : You don't. I think the theory of uncontrolled space is there are so few : planes the likelyhood of a conflict is very, very small. : : Danny Deger : : The title to this thread should be "IF" in uncontrolled airspace, the "R" makes it an oxymoron...
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April 12th 07, 05:15 PM
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"Blueskies" wrote in message ... "Danny Deger" wrote in message ... : : "kevmor" wrote in message : ups.com... : If it's uncontrolled, how do you know someone just like you didn't : take off in the same area, and your in IMC? : : On Apr 11, 9:35 am, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: : Everytime I leave my home airport IFR I'm flying IFR in uncontrolled : airspace, I don't file unless I think the fog is high enough to extend : into controlled airspace. Also, 75% of all my IFR in Mexico is : uncontrolled. : : -Robert : : : : You don't. I think the theory of uncontrolled space is there are so few : planes the likelyhood of a conflict is very, very small. : : Danny Deger : : The title to this thread should be "IF" in uncontrolled airspace, the "R" makes it an oxymoron... Yes I know. I made a typo. Danny Deger
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April 13th 07, 12:27 PM
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Blueskies wrote:
: The title to this thread should be "IF" in uncontrolled airspace, the "R" makes it an oxymoron... All the IFR RULES still apply. The only thing you don't have is a clearance.
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April 15th 07, 03:08 PM
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message ... : Blueskies wrote: : : : : The title to this thread should be "IF" in uncontrolled airspace, the "R" makes it an oxymoron... : : : : All the IFR RULES still apply. The only thing you don't have : is a clearance. Isn't a clearance one of the rules?
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