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  #11  
Old March 1st 08, 01:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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One less thing for me to remember...

pull chute.



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Old March 1st 08, 03:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Then there was the student pilot flying solo who ran out of gas on final,
turned away from the airport, and jumped out (with a 'chute)...


I'd like to read that one. Do you recall what you searched for to find
it?
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Old March 1st 08, 07:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in news:deb6419c-cb2f-4b33-
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If you are faced with a full blown emergency such as an engine
failure, what are you going to do?


first thing? atare at it inredulously for about .0001 of a second.




Bertie
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Old March 1st 08, 09:17 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ol Shy & Bashful writes:

Anyone want to hazard a guess at the major number of engine failure
causes?


Fuel exhaustion.
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Old March 1st 08, 10:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mar 1, 10:17*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Ol Shy & Bashful writes:

Anyone want to hazard a guess at the major number of engine failure
causes?


Fuel exhaustion.


Not paying your electricity bill again?

Cheers
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Old March 1st 08, 11:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ol Shy & Bashful writes:

Anyone want to hazard a guess at the major number of engine failure
causes?


Fuel exhaustion.


Can't read, won't read.


Bertie
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Old March 1st 08, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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I was looking for cases where people had failed to exit while trying to bail
out. So, parachute was the main search term - but that finds a lot of
accidents where someone was doing aerobatics without a parachute...

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Then there was the student pilot flying solo who ran out of gas on final,
turned away from the airport, and jumped out (with a 'chute)...


I'd like to read that one. Do you recall what you searched for to find
it?


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Old March 4th 08, 06:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
Anyone want to hazard a guess at the major number of engine failure
causes?


For you, or the general public?

For the general public, I'd say fuel starvation is the major cause.

For you, probably something else, because if it was fuel starvation,
you'd be too embarassed to bring it up :-)


Oddly enough, I did have an engine failure myself a few years ago and
I did not follow the checklist. The engine died, I looked at the fuel
pressure gauge, and flipped the aux fuel pump. It all happened so fast
that my passengers didn't even notice. I didn't even think about what
I was doing, I just did it.

Am I a genius for instantly knowing what the problem was, or am I an
idiot for not following the emergency checklist? Until I have another
engine out, I guess I'll never know.

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Old March 4th 08, 08:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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(Edward A. Falk) wrote in
:

In article
,
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
Anyone want to hazard a guess at the major number of engine failure
causes?


For you, or the general public?

For the general public, I'd say fuel starvation is the major cause.

For you, probably something else, because if it was fuel starvation,
you'd be too embarassed to bring it up :-)


Oddly enough, I did have an engine failure myself a few years ago and
I did not follow the checklist. The engine died, I looked at the fuel
pressure gauge, and flipped the aux fuel pump. It all happened so
fast that my passengers didn't even notice. I didn't even think about
what I was doing, I just did it.

Am I a genius for instantly knowing what the problem was, or am I an
idiot for not following the emergency checklist? Until I have another
engine out, I guess I'll never know.


I wouldn't say you were a genius, but if we did something like that in the
sim, and it worked, we'd definitely get pat on the back for it, unless it
endangered the airplane in some other way. For instance, if you get an
engine failure in a twin and don't follow the checklist you could shut the
othr one down which would be a bad thing. You had nothing to lose by
following your instinct so , no foul.


Bertie
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Old March 4th 08, 09:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 06:38:08 +0000 (UTC), (Edward
A. Falk) wrote:

In article ,
Ol Shy & Bashful wrote:
Anyone want to hazard a guess at the major number of engine failure
causes?


For you, or the general public?

For the general public, I'd say fuel starvation is the major cause.

For you, probably something else, because if it was fuel starvation,
you'd be too embarassed to bring it up :-)


Hardly, Running out of gas due to poor planning is not the only
reason for fuel starvation.


Oddly enough, I did have an engine failure myself a few years ago and
I did not follow the checklist. The engine died, I looked at the fuel


I had a tank unport and it got real quiet real quick.
Like you I reacted so fast I wouldn't have had time to even read the
first line on the checklist.

pressure gauge, and flipped the aux fuel pump. It all happened so fast
that my passengers didn't even notice. I didn't even think about what
I was doing, I just did it.

Am I a genius for instantly knowing what the problem was, or am I an
idiot for not following the emergency checklist? Until I have another
engine out, I guess I'll never know.


There are times when you don't have time to follow a checklist. That
is when the repetitive training takes over and you, not the plane is
on autopilot. You just hope the programming was done right. :-))
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
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