Unclear Clearance

When ATC says you are "cleared" that is exactly what that means. You
are ok to proceed from that instant. The exceptions are when they add
"hold for release". At tower controlled airports, you are actually on
hold for release because you need a separate clearance for takeoff, at
which point you are considered to be released into the system.



On Apr 11, 2:11 am, "Travis Marlatte"
wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

ps.com...

I am unclear on why you thought this clearance was unclear. You were
cleared to D95 and you were told to climb to 5000. What additional
instructions were you expecting to make that clearance valid?
Regarding the squawk code, it is not all that unusual to get the code
on the first call and get the complete clearance afterwards.

I dunno.

I guess I am more used to the three-step process of filing the clearance,
receiving the clearance, and finally being released into the system. On the
ground, that always happens.

Someone suggested that I don't air-file very often. That's probably true in
the big scheme of things but I have done it a good number of times. I don't
ever remember questioning whether I was really cleared or not before so
maybe I'm just having a brain fade.

I think I was expecting something like, "readback correct. Proceed on
course. Climb maintain 5000."

Someone suggested that as soon as the words were spoken they would have
turned and climbed. That doesn't seem right. That seems like it doesn't give
the controller a chance to manage their airspace. In my mind, I'm leaving
room for something different. Such as, "readback correct. Fly heading 030
for traffic. Climb maintain 3000. I'll have higher for you in a few miles."

OK. I'm done. Every response has been along the lines of "what's the
problem!" so I guess it's just me.
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Travis
Lake N3094P
PWK