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On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 3:11:22 PM UTC, Eric Greenwell wrote:
Chris Wedgwood wrote on 12/11/2019 2:38 AM: On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 12:05:24 AM UTC, Duster wrote: Really Dan, pay attention. "FES" stands for "front engine sustainer", whereas "FES" stands for "front engine self-launcher". OK, seriously, the Diana site says the Diana 2 and 3 are optioned for "FES" capability (which they define as front engine sustainter). However, they also state, "The Diana 2 with 185 kg of empty mass can be self-launched without water ballast." A friend swears the Diana line either meets or exceeds the performance of any other competition glider to date (stated before Ventus 3 and JS3 were produced). Dusty Front Electric Sustainer actually. Actually not, according the FES people: "FES is efficient and innovative Front Electric Self-launch / Self-sustainer propulsion system for powered sailplanes, developed and produced by LZ design company located in Slovenia in the middle of the Europe." I believe it was "sustainer" initialiy, but with so many FES equipped gliders capable of self-launch, the meaning has been expanded. My favorite of the FES self-launchers is the 13.5M minLAK FES. Small, light, easy to live with, but with good gliding and power-on performance. It has enough water ballast capacity to use the strong days well, at least where I live in the Pacific Northwest. -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 Take a look at the URL for their website .. http://www.front-electric-sustainer.com/ |
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Chris Wedgwood wrote on 12/11/2019 1:24 PM:
On Wednesday, December 11, 2019 at 3:11:22 PM UTC, Eric Greenwell wrote: Chris Wedgwood wrote on 12/11/2019 2:38 AM: On Monday, December 9, 2019 at 12:05:24 AM UTC, Duster wrote: Really Dan, pay attention. "FES" stands for "front engine sustainer", whereas "FES" stands for "front engine self-launcher". OK, seriously, the Diana site says the Diana 2 and 3 are optioned for "FES" capability (which they define as front engine sustainter). However, they also state, "The Diana 2 with 185 kg of empty mass can be self-launched without water ballast." A friend swears the Diana line either meets or exceeds the performance of any other competition glider to date (stated before Ventus 3 and JS3 were produced). Dusty Front Electric Sustainer actually. Actually not, according the FES people: "FES is efficient and innovative Front Electric Self-launch / Self-sustainer propulsion system for powered sailplanes, developed and produced by LZ design company located in Slovenia in the middle of the Europe." I believe it was "sustainer" initialiy, but with so many FES equipped gliders capable of self-launch, the meaning has been expanded. My favorite of the FES self-launchers is the 13.5M minLAK FES. Small, light, easy to live with, but with good gliding and power-on performance. It has enough water ballast capacity to use the strong days well, at least where I live in the Pacific Northwest. Take a look at the URL for their website .. http://www.front-electric-sustainer.com/ I did that before I posted the sentence, which is quoted from their website; in fact, it is the first sentence on the website. Go by the site's content, not the URL! -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 |
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