Best Overall Motorglider available today?

On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:24:30 AM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:
So, you've owned the Wankel and had problematic maintenance? Or you are guessing? The Wankel is an ICE, it has a fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and belt drive reduction system as they all do. Maintenance tasks are identical in most respects with any glider ICE. Only if you have to tear the engine down completely will you see the differences (and here the Wankel is somewhat simpler, having 2 moving parts).
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-7, John Iacobucci wrote:
One can argue the Wankle is less vibration on the whole, but maintenance for problems would be problematic. Pluses and minuses.

In response to jfitch: not guessing. Have two friends had to send engine to Europe for work. After all the bother of sending it, being in the factory more than a season, they were told to buy a new one. Very expensive. Like I said, my only problem was solved by a local mechanic in two hours. Back to flying same day. Not guessing, just relaying my experience

Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?

https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/

Ramy

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-8, John Iacobucci wrote:
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:24:30 AM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:
So, you've owned the Wankel and had problematic maintenance? Or you are guessing? The Wankel is an ICE, it has a fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and belt drive reduction system as they all do. Maintenance tasks are identical in most respects with any glider ICE. Only if you have to tear the engine down completely will you see the differences (and here the Wankel is somewhat simpler, having 2 moving parts).
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-7, John Iacobucci wrote:
One can argue the Wankle is less vibration on the whole, but maintenance for problems would be problematic. Pluses and minuses.

In response to jfitch: not guessing. Have two friends had to send engine to Europe for work. After all the bother of sending it, being in the factory more than a season, they were told to buy a new one. Very expensive. Like I said, my only problem was solved by a local mechanic in two hours. Back to flying same day. Not guessing, just relaying my experience

I would think the vaunted Jeta would be the obvious answer. I remember
you saying it looked great (on paper), but you were going to wait until
they showed up on the used market. Wait no longer, you can pick one up
on W&W today. A used glider with just zero hours on it! New glider
smell with a used glider price!

https://wingsandwheels.com/classifie...gp15-jeta.html



On 12/13/20 5:39 PM, Ramy wrote:
Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?

https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/

Ramy

On Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:22:24 PM UTC-8, John Iacobucci wrote:
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 11:24:30 AM UTC-4, jfitch wrote:
So, you've owned the Wankel and had problematic maintenance? Or you are guessing? The Wankel is an ICE, it has a fuel system, ignition system, cooling system, and belt drive reduction system as they all do. Maintenance tasks are identical in most respects with any glider ICE. Only if you have to tear the engine down completely will you see the differences (and here the Wankel is somewhat simpler, having 2 moving parts).
On Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 5:51:39 AM UTC-7, John Iacobucci wrote:
One can argue the Wankle is less vibration on the whole, but maintenance for problems would be problematic. Pluses and minuses.

In response to jfitch: not guessing. Have two friends had to send engine to Europe for work. After all the bother of sending it, being in the factory more than a season, they were told to buy a new one. Very expensive. Like I said, my only problem was solved by a local mechanic in two hours. Back to flying same day. Not guessing, just relaying my experience

Interesting that the GP Jeta advertised on W&W is the first one imported into the country, is going back to the factory for "revisions and upgrades" and is being offered for sale by the dealer who imported it. And it does not appear to have been flown. Wonder if he has ordered another? Or not?

On 12/14/20 7:07 AM, Mark Mocho wrote:
Interesting that the GP Jeta advertised on W&W is the first one imported into the country, is going back to the factory for "revisions and upgrades" and is being offered for sale by the dealer who imported it. And it does not appear to have been flown. Wonder if he has ordered another? Or not?


My guess is that it's a clever sales advertisement.

But, if you've got a LOT of money to spend, check out Reiner Stemme's
new Elfin...

--
Dan
5J

On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?

https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/

Ramy

Yes.

Dňa utorok 15. decembra 2020 oÂ*8:49:57 UTC+1 použÃ*vateľ krasw napÃ*sal:
On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?

https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/

Ramy
Yes.
Hi, I ve seen quite a lot used ASH31s for sale on segelflug pages. Any known reason why are people dropping them? they seem to be marketed to HNWI pilots, who doesnt change the ship often due "WGC competitiveness" reasons

EP

On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:34:34 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Dňa utorok 15. decembra 2020 o 8:49:57 UTC+1 použÃ*vateľ krasw napÃ*sal:
On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?

https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/

Ramy
Yes.
Hi, I ve seen quite a lot used ASH31s for sale on segelflug pages. Any known reason why are people dropping them? they seem to be marketed to HNWI pilots, who doesnt change the ship often due "WGC competitiveness" reasons

EP

Don't know what an "HNWI" pilot is, but there are more than 250 31s out there, so it is not surprising to see some up for sale. There weren't any for sale in the US when I was looking 3 years ago, so I had to order a new one.

Tom

On 3/27/21 11:40 AM, 2G wrote:
On Friday, March 26, 2021 at 8:34:34 AM UTC-7, wrote:
Dňa utorok 15. decembra 2020 o 8:49:57 UTC+1 použÃ*vateľ krasw napÃ*sal:
On Monday, 14 December 2020 at 02:39:25 UTC+2, Ramy wrote:
Back to the op question, is the new AS33ME will be the answer?

https://www.alexander-schleicher.de/...self-launcher/

Ramy
Yes.
Hi, I ve seen quite a lot used ASH31s for sale on segelflug pages. Any known reason why are people dropping them? they seem to be marketed to HNWI pilots, who doesnt change the ship often due "WGC competitiveness" reasons

EP

Don't know what an "HNWI" pilot is, but there are more than 250 31s out there, so it is not surprising to see some up for sale. There weren't any for sale in the US when I was looking 3 years ago, so I had to order a new one.

Tom


"High Net Worth Individual"

"High Net Worth Individual"

"RD" = Rich Dude. I personally don't have a problem with rich people. They often hire me to do stuff or build things and they pay me enough that I don't have to drink Miller Lite anymore. I don't get many jobs from the dudes at every stop light with cardboard signs, and I never saw one of those signs that read, "Now Hiring."