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The Navy tried to close NAS Lemoore fourteen months after it opened, but
Congress wouldn't let them. Source for that info? Lemoore is one of the few unencroached air stations we have ... a real jewel in that regard. Interestingly, it ranked last in the military value matrix used in 1993. Check out this link and see if you can tell how many of the listed air stations can operate 24/7 with little impact on the local population. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/nas.htm NAS Meridian was built so John Stennis could have medical and dental care when Congress was out of session. Incorrect. It was a consolation prize when Stennis didn't get the Air Force Academy for Mississippi (not much better, eh?). I doubt he would have bothered with NAS's rather spartan capabilities (I experienced them first hand in early 1970) when the region's medical/dental hub was only another 12 miles down the highway. The Navy built a new Bureau of Personnel at New Orleans. Senator Ebert died before it was occupied, so it was given to the Reserves, VA, Social Security, etc. I thought that was in New Iberia (could be wrong there). Gore got reelected in 1996, so the BuPers move to Millington, Tennessee survived. Part of the BRAC plan to vacate DC. I doubt Gore was a player. NAS Memphis was closed and the schools command was relocated at Pensacola. The real winner was Pensacola, which lost a superfluous NADEP, but gained a huge training complex that's unlikely to be threatened. Several hundred million for local contractors, not a bad deal. Then, they built a new battle group port at Ingleside. No battle group to put there, but they couldn't quietly give away an 1,100 foot pier, etc... Part of Lehman's "dispersal" plan for the ludicrous 600 ship Navy (nice thought, but it was economically unfeasible. We're still paying the price for this folly). Of course, the real reason was putting a base IN YOUR STATE to gain the necessary political support (He once commented he'd homeport a battleship in Iowa if he could figure a way to get it there). No doubt powerful legislators (particularly Senators) tilt the table often, but not always. R / John |
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John,
NAS Meridian was built so John Stennis could have medical and dental care when Congress was out of session. Incorrect. It was a consolation prize when Stennis didn't get the Air Force Academy for Mississippi (not much better, eh?). I doubt he would have bothered with NAS's rather spartan capabilities (I experienced them first hand in early 1970) when the region's medical/dental hub was only another 12 miles down the highway. Actually it was built AT Meridian (versus elsewhere in MS) because SEN Stennis' hometown of DeKalb was right up Highway 39 from the base. Made it easier for him (and - occasionally - REP "Sonny" Montgomery) to get back to their constituents on weekends. I never heard the "consolation prize" story but it makes as much sense as any other I heard while I was there (1970 - 1971). One thing I will say for SEN Stennis - he did look out for "his boys" at the base. Example: As the result of an intemperate exchange of Anglo-Saxon honorifics, a certain Lauderdale County constable took an extreme dislike to one of VT-7's folks. This upstanding officer of the law initiated several nighttime encounters with our guy, tailgating him and otherwise attempting to "bait" him into some action that would cause his arrest. Word got back to SEN John, who called the appropriate Lauderdale County Poo-Bahs. Said constable found himself on a beat w-a-a-a-y down by Whynot or some such burg. -- Mike Kanze "A centerpiece for the table should never be anything prepared by a taxidermist." - Martha Stewart's TIPS FOR REDNECKS "John Carrier" wrote in message ... [rest snipped] |
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Actually it was built AT Meridian (versus elsewhere in MS) because SEN
Stennis' hometown of DeKalb was right up Highway 39 from the base. Made it easier for him (and - occasionally - REP "Sonny" Montgomery) to get back to their constituents on weekends. Well, if you're going to slice pork, you want to do it close to home. Sonny wasn't in Congress when this deal was made. As it turns out, Meridian's location makes it quite useful as a training station. No TRACOM base is as thoroughly unencroached (even Kingsville has to observe quiet hours). MOA's in three quadrants (I think it'll be 4 before the year is out). A handy OLF and unlimited access to Key field (10,000 feet these days). Biggest problem is it's a social wasteland for the bachelors who come here (albeit pretty good for those with families). As an aside, the "Congressman for Life" has given up his consulting business inside the beltway and is fully retired. 85 IIRC and looking quite frail, living in the local Cadillac quality retirement home. Good friend and a great guy, one of the last gentleman politicians. Anyone who has cashed in on their GI bill education over the last couple decades have a fella named Montgomery to thank. There were many in congress who could have cared less about those who grabbed the dirty end of the stick in service of their country. A fitting legacy. John X |
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John,
Sonny wasn't in Congress when this deal was made. True. This was SEN John's deal, all the way. Sonny DID enjoy the benefit as well, but IIRC he was quite circumspect in its exercise. As it turns out, Meridian's location makes it quite useful as a training station. No TRACOM base is as thoroughly unencroached (even Kingsville has to observe quiet hours). MOA's in three quadrants (I think it'll be 4 before the year is out). A handy OLF and unlimited access to Key field (10,000 feet these days). Only training negative is its non-proximity to "blue" water, necessitating carquals to be run as dets. (At least this was the case with the T-2s. Don't know anything about the legs on the T-45.) This wouldn't have been the case for the erstwhile NAS New Iberia, LA if it hadn't been strangled in the cradle. Biggest problem is it's a social wasteland for the bachelors who come here (albeit pretty good for those with families). Correct. VT-7 was my "stash" assignment right out of BJN School, and for a bachelor who was also the only NFO on the base at the time there was little redeeming about the place, either professionally or socially. At least the backroads to Pensacola were picturesque and uncrowded - I wore deep ruts in them over many weekends. After my 18 months there going to foggy, rainy Whidbey was like getting into Heaven. LOTSA families "got started" at Meridian during the VN era. g Good friend and a great guy, one of the last gentleman politicians. Anyone who has cashed in on their GI bill education over the last couple decades have a fella named Montgomery to thank. Amen. Well-regarded by all in his district and more than a few of us transients. -- Mike Kanze "A centerpiece for the table should never be anything prepared by a taxidermist." - Martha Stewart's TIPS FOR REDNECKS "John Carrier" wrote in message ... [rest snipped] |
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Only training negative is its non-proximity to "blue" water, necessitating
carquals to be run as dets. (At least this was the case with the T-2s. Don't know anything about the legs on the T-45.) This wouldn't have been the case for the erstwhile NAS New Iberia, LA if it hadn't been strangled in the cradle. No longer an issue. The closest a carrier will be to the Gulf is Key West area. Both advanced TRACOM bases now are a leg away or more from CQ dets. Biggest problem is it's a social wasteland for the bachelors who come here (albeit pretty good for those with families). Correct. VT-7 was my "stash" assignment right out of BJN School, and for a bachelor who was also the only NFO on the base at the time there was little redeeming about the place, either professionally or socially. At least the backroads to Pensacola were picturesque and uncrowded - I wore deep ruts in them over many weekends. After my 18 months there going to foggy, rainy Whidbey was like getting into Heaven. Ouch! Well, Kingsville/Beeville weren't really any better, but the proximity of Corpus (and San Antonio for Beeville) made them seem a bit more tolerable. LOTSA families "got started" at Meridian during the VN era. g Still true today. Often a first shore tour after a fleet assignment. When I was in base housing, you could look out the front windows and watch the baby carriage grand prix. R / John |
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