Fuel dip tube for Piper Warrior?

"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
...
Is there a fuel dip tube available for the Piper Warrior II
(specifically, pa28-161)?

Here's the data I used to make my dipstick (wood paint stirring stick) for
24 gallon tanks:

4= 0"
5= 1"
10= 2 1/4"
15= 4"
20= 5 3/4"
24= 7 1/4"

John Kunkel wrote:

"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
...

Is there a fuel dip tube available for the Piper Warrior II
(specifically, pa28-161)?


Here's the data I used to make my dipstick (wood paint stirring stick) for
24 gallon tanks:

do you really mean 25 gallon (24 usuable) tanks?


Thanks for the info.

4= 0"
5= 1"
10= 2 1/4"
15= 4"
20= 5 3/4"
24= 7 1/4"

On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:55:04 GMT, "John Kunkel"
wrote:


"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
...
Is there a fuel dip tube available for the Piper Warrior II
(specifically, pa28-161)?

Here's the data I used to make my dipstick (wood paint stirring stick) for
24 gallon tanks:

4= 0"
5= 1"
10= 2 1/4"
15= 4"
20= 5 3/4"
24= 7 1/4"


I use a smooth wooden dowel abut 1/4" diameter and fitted a soft
elastic tube over the the end to stop any chance of damaging the tank.
The top has a small string loop to ensure it's not dropped into the
tank (one of our group had the pleasure of removing and refitting a
tank after dropping a calibrated tube inside!). Calibration is with a
fine 'permanent' marker pen. Occasionally it needs re-marking but
works well.

Both tanks were calibrated by adding fuel, in increments, to our
PA28-161, Warrior II. There was a slight discrepancy between tanks but
not sufficient to cause any serious errors.

It's nice to see some similarity with the poster above. I use the
following which is from fuel added, measured then interpolated from
calibration in litres. It is not on a linear scale. Dipped with stick
approx. in middle of filler hole and on level ground:

Inches USG
============
8.0 24.7
7.0 23.5
6.0 21.8
5.0 19.4
TAB 17.5
4.0 16.6
3.0 13.3
2.0 9.3
1.0 6.3
0.0 4.3


David

Piper Warrior G-BHJO
Scotland, UK

E-mail (Remove Space after pilot): pilot

Any speculation on the corresponding data for Hershey-bar wing Cherokees?
We drive a 74 Archer. Same tank capacity as Warriors and 28-181 Archers,
but the airfoil is presumably different, and therefore the tank sections are
probably different. Anyone know if this is the case? Thanks.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney to love America
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:55:04 GMT, "John Kunkel"
wrote:


"TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
...
Is there a fuel dip tube available for the Piper Warrior II
(specifically, pa28-161)?

Here's the data I used to make my dipstick (wood paint stirring stick)
for
24 gallon tanks:

4= 0"
5= 1"
10= 2 1/4"
15= 4"
20= 5 3/4"
24= 7 1/4"


I use a smooth wooden dowel abut 1/4" diameter and fitted a soft
elastic tube over the the end to stop any chance of damaging the tank.
The top has a small string loop to ensure it's not dropped into the
tank (one of our group had the pleasure of removing and refitting a
tank after dropping a calibrated tube inside!). Calibration is with a
fine 'permanent' marker pen. Occasionally it needs re-marking but
works well.

Both tanks were calibrated by adding fuel, in increments, to our
PA28-161, Warrior II. There was a slight discrepancy between tanks but
not sufficient to cause any serious errors.

It's nice to see some similarity with the poster above. I use the
following which is from fuel added, measured then interpolated from
calibration in litres. It is not on a linear scale. Dipped with stick
approx. in middle of filler hole and on level ground:

Inches USG
============
8.0 24.7
7.0 23.5
6.0 21.8
5.0 19.4
TAB 17.5
4.0 16.6
3.0 13.3
2.0 9.3
1.0 6.3
0.0 4.3


David

Piper Warrior G-BHJO
Scotland, UK

E-mail (Remove Space after pilot): pilot

IIRC, the taper-wing Cherokees are only different outboard of the fuel tanks. The inboard chunk of the
wings have the same cross-section and thus the same fuel tank geometry. I'm not sure about the taperwing
Arrows, since I think they're 36 gal each or something, rather than 25.

I had the FBO fill up the tanks 5.0 gal at a time after I had to drain them for some reason. Dipped
with a 1/2" wooden dowel and then scratched a line at each position. Very easy, and accurate to within \pm 1/s
gallon. I'll contribute my measurements if interest merits.

-Cory

Bob Chilcoat wrote: : Any speculation on the corresponding data for Hershey-bar wing
Cherokees? : We drive a 74 Archer. Same tank capacity as Warriors and 28-181 Archers, : but the airfoil is
presumably different, and therefore the tank sections are : probably different. Anyone know if this is the
case? Thanks.

: --
: Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

: I don't have to like Bush and Cheney to love America
: wrote in message
: ...
: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:55:04 GMT, "John Kunkel"
: wrote:
:
:
: "TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
: ...
: Is there a fuel dip tube available for the Piper Warrior II
: (specifically, pa28-161)?
:
: Here's the data I used to make my dipstick (wood paint stirring stick)
: for
: 24 gallon tanks:
:
: 4= 0"
: 5= 1"
: 10= 2 1/4"
: 15= 4"
: 20= 5 3/4"
: 24= 7 1/4"
:
:
: I use a smooth wooden dowel abut 1/4" diameter and fitted a soft
: elastic tube over the the end to stop any chance of damaging the tank.
: The top has a small string loop to ensure it's not dropped into the
: tank (one of our group had the pleasure of removing and refitting a
: tank after dropping a calibrated tube inside!). Calibration is with a
: fine 'permanent' marker pen. Occasionally it needs re-marking but
: works well.
:
: Both tanks were calibrated by adding fuel, in increments, to our
: PA28-161, Warrior II. There was a slight discrepancy between tanks but
: not sufficient to cause any serious errors.
:
: It's nice to see some similarity with the poster above. I use the
: following which is from fuel added, measured then interpolated from
: calibration in litres. It is not on a linear scale. Dipped with stick
: approx. in middle of filler hole and on level ground:
:
: Inches USG
: ============
: 8.0 24.7
: 7.0 23.5
: 6.0 21.8
: 5.0 19.4
: TAB 17.5
: 4.0 16.6
: 3.0 13.3
: 2.0 9.3
: 1.0 6.3
: 0.0 4.3
:
:
: David
:
: Piper Warrior G-BHJO
: Scotland, UK
:
: E-mail (Remove Space after pilot): pilot



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I posted the original query and someone emailed me offline with the
following link:

Aircraft Spruce P/N 12-21255
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...fuelgauges.php

They only offer one tube for the whole PA-28 line so they seem to think
it's the same.

I ordered it and got it last week. So far it seems to be correct within
two gallons. I haven't drained tanks, but I did measure, predict how
much it would take to top the tanks, and then have them topped.


wrote:
IIRC, the taper-wing Cherokees are only different outboard of the fuel tanks. The inboard chunk of the
wings have the same cross-section and thus the same fuel tank geometry. I'm not sure about the taperwing
Arrows, since I think they're 36 gal each or something, rather than 25.

I had the FBO fill up the tanks 5.0 gal at a time after I had to drain them for some reason. Dipped
with a 1/2" wooden dowel and then scratched a line at each position. Very easy, and accurate to within \pm 1/s
gallon. I'll contribute my measurements if interest merits.

-Cory

Bob Chilcoat wrote: : Any speculation on the corresponding data for Hershey-bar wing
Cherokees? : We drive a 74 Archer. Same tank capacity as Warriors and 28-181 Archers, : but the airfoil is
presumably different, and therefore the tank sections are : probably different. Anyone know if this is the
case? Thanks.

: --
: Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

: I don't have to like Bush and Cheney to love America
: wrote in message
: ...
: On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:55:04 GMT, "John Kunkel"
: wrote:
:
:
: "TTA Cherokee Driver" wrote in message
: ...
: Is there a fuel dip tube available for the Piper Warrior II
: (specifically, pa28-161)?
:
: Here's the data I used to make my dipstick (wood paint stirring stick)
: for
: 24 gallon tanks:
:
: 4= 0"
: 5= 1"
: 10= 2 1/4"
: 15= 4"
: 20= 5 3/4"
: 24= 7 1/4"
:
:
: I use a smooth wooden dowel abut 1/4" diameter and fitted a soft
: elastic tube over the the end to stop any chance of damaging the tank.
: The top has a small string loop to ensure it's not dropped into the
: tank (one of our group had the pleasure of removing and refitting a
: tank after dropping a calibrated tube inside!). Calibration is with a
: fine 'permanent' marker pen. Occasionally it needs re-marking but
: works well.
:
: Both tanks were calibrated by adding fuel, in increments, to our
: PA28-161, Warrior II. There was a slight discrepancy between tanks but
: not sufficient to cause any serious errors.
:
: It's nice to see some similarity with the poster above. I use the
: following which is from fuel added, measured then interpolated from
: calibration in litres. It is not on a linear scale. Dipped with stick
: approx. in middle of filler hole and on level ground:
:
: Inches USG
: ============
: 8.0 24.7
: 7.0 23.5
: 6.0 21.8
: 5.0 19.4
: TAB 17.5
: 4.0 16.6
: 3.0 13.3
: 2.0 9.3
: 1.0 6.3
: 0.0 4.3
:
:
: David
:
: Piper Warrior G-BHJO
: Scotland, UK
:
: E-mail (Remove Space after pilot): pilot