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Old April 28th 04, 12:22 AM
Aaron Coolidge
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kage wrote:
: Did this engine ever have a prop strike?

: Karl

That was going to be my question! Even a prop strike on something "soft"
such as snow can lead to a later crank failure. Did you see any mention of
a prop overhaul/replacement in the logs?
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Old April 28th 04, 01:42 AM
O. Sami Saydjari
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I will double check the logs when I see them on Monday, but I do not
recall seeing such an entry when I read through it for the purchase.

My understanding is that any prop strike *requires* a major overhaul for
this very reason. Is that not the case?

-Sami

Aaron Coolidge wrote:
kage wrote:
: Did this engine ever have a prop strike?

: Karl

That was going to be my question! Even a prop strike on something "soft"
such as snow can lead to a later crank failure. Did you see any mention of
a prop overhaul/replacement in the logs?


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Old April 28th 04, 01:51 AM
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"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote:

My understanding is that any prop strike *requires* a major overhaul for
this very reason. Is that not the case?


Don't think so. It requires that the engine be disassembled and checked for damage
but not overhauled. Many owners would take the opportunity to major the engine,
though.

George Patterson
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Old April 28th 04, 01:54 AM
Roy Smith
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:

"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote:

My understanding is that any prop strike *requires* a major overhaul for
this very reason. Is that not the case?


Don't think so. It requires that the engine be disassembled and checked for
damage
but not overhauled. Many owners would take the opportunity to major the
engine,
though.


Once you've got the thing taken apart, why would you do anything else?
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Old April 28th 04, 02:10 AM
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Roy Smith wrote:

Once you've got the thing taken apart, why would you do anything else?


If I had it overhauled a few hundred hours ago, I would not do it again. Teardown,
damage check, and reassembly is much cheaper than an overhaul.

George Patterson
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Old April 28th 04, 03:04 AM
O. Sami Saydjari
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Is there a way to test a crank after a prop strike to absolutely assure
that it has no micro-fractures or hidden fatigue points? That seems
like a pretty big gamble to me. -Sami

G.R. Patterson III wrote:

Roy Smith wrote:

Once you've got the thing taken apart, why would you do anything else?



If I had it overhauled a few hundred hours ago, I would not do it again. Teardown,
damage check, and reassembly is much cheaper than an overhaul.

George Patterson
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Old April 28th 04, 02:22 PM
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"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote:

Is there a way to test a crank after a prop strike to absolutely assure
that it has no micro-fractures or hidden fatigue points?


Yes. IIRC, it's called magnafluxing.

George Patterson
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Old April 28th 04, 04:31 AM
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"O. Sami Saydjari" wrote in message
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I will double check the logs when I see them on Monday, but I do not
recall seeing such an entry when I read through it for the purchase.

My understanding is that any prop strike *requires* a major overhaul for
this very reason. Is that not the case?

-Sami


There is no such requirement. Even if there were such a requirement there
is no guarantee the engine teardown would be done. Just because there is no
prop strike in the log book does not mean it did not happen.


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Old April 28th 04, 04:59 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message m...

There is no such requirement. Even if there were such a requirement there
is no guarantee the engine teardown would be done. Just because there is no
prop strike in the log book does not mean it did not happen.

There is no regulatory requirement, but both Lycoming and Continental "require"
a tear down inspection after any sort of prop strike. For us small operators, it's
just a very strong suggestion from the manufacturer. After my engine failure which
had a very small scuffing of the prop blades, the insurance company didn't even bat
an eye on paying for the teardown. Ran about $3K if I recall.

 




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