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Old August 8th 03, 12:29 PM
David Megginson
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aaronw writes:

I am assuming the 'worst that could happen' is that I call Center and
they say 'no, dummy, you want to call XXX approach on YYY'. My
question is - is there any way to find out this information
beforehand?


Don't the U.S. sectionals have frequencies printed right on them?


All the best,


David

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Old August 8th 03, 02:18 PM
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"David Megginson" wrote in message
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Don't the U.S. sectionals have frequencies printed right on them?


Airport freq's, yes. Center freq's no.

I have to differ with others about using the GPS to look up freqs. You IFR
people may have a different slant 'cause you update your GPS regularly
(don't you?). I don't trust the freq's in the VFR GPS. Even if the thing
has been updated in the last few years the freq's still change without
notice.

It's just so darn easy to simply pick an airport, any airport, listed near
to you on the sectional, whip out the AF/D and look up the controlling
frequency.

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Old August 8th 03, 02:38 PM
David Megginson
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"Jim Fisher" writes:

"David Megginson" wrote in message
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Don't the U.S. sectionals have frequencies printed right on them?


Airport freq's, yes. Center freq's no.


I just pulled out the current NY sectional (that I used for a recent
trip), and it has Tracon frequencies on the map with notes like this:

CTC New York App within 20 nm on 118.0 343.75

A similar note appears on different sides of the area with different
frequencies. I don't know if that kind of thing appears on all the
sectionals, though. There is also a table at the bottom left
containing tower, class B, class C, TSRA, and some radar approach
frequencies. I don't see the centre frequencies, though.


All the best,


David

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Old August 9th 03, 02:38 AM
aaronw
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:29:31 GMT, David Megginson
wrote:

aaronw writes:

I am assuming the 'worst that could happen' is that I call Center and
they say 'no, dummy, you want to call XXX approach on YYY'. My
question is - is there any way to find out this information
beforehand?


Don't the U.S. sectionals have frequencies printed right on them?


Well, I am looking at my Washington and New York sectionals.

Both of them seem to have little boxes saying 'Contact XXX approach
within 20nm on YYY'.

However, on a closer glance these appear to be *ONLY* for the class Cs
I can see at a glance - ACY, RIC, ORF, ISP, etc. Of course, the
controlling approach facility for ISP is New York Approach, which is
the same one that JFK/EWR/LGA use. I do not see a little box printed
in the sectional with the PHL, DCA/BWI/IAD, JFK/EWR/LGA, or BOS
approach frequncies. Maybe that is because they tend to have many
many more (but then they're also spread out in a wider place, as
well...)

As someone else mentioned, though, there are indeed approach
frequencies given by radials from I assume the on-field VOR in the
side tab, which is of course seems to be always folded in the most
inaccessible place when I am in the cockpit.

Then there's also stuff like I mentioned before - specifically
Patuxent approach. In the Washington sectional if you look at the
northern tip of R-4006 there's a little box that says 'Patuxent
Approach 127.95' All fine and good. So if they are so precise about
the boundaries of, for example, R-4006 by putting them on the
sectional, why don't they give me some idea of how far away Patuxent's
radar domain reaches instead of just 'Well, somewhere around ....
there...'

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Old August 9th 03, 03:10 AM
Roy Smith
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aaronw wrote:
Don't the U.S. sectionals have frequencies printed right on them?


Well, I am looking at my Washington and New York sectionals.

Both of them seem to have little boxes saying 'Contact XXX approach
within 20nm on YYY'.

However, on a closer glance these appear to be *ONLY* for the class Cs
I can see at a glance - ACY, RIC, ORF, ISP, etc.


Yeah, and I think it's one of the dumb things about sectionals. Each
Class B has it's own terminal area chart, and that's where you'll find
the frequencies for NY TRACON. I wish they put them on the sectional
too, but they don't.

As someone else mentioned, though, there are indeed approach
frequencies given by radials from I assume the on-field VOR in the
side tab, which is of course seems to be always folded in the most
inaccessible place when I am in the cockpit.


The table that lists the frequencies will tell you how the sector
boundaries are defined. For New York, it's radials off the LaGuardia
VOR.
 




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