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Old September 18th 03, 12:22 PM
Roger Long
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And, what the FAA guys tell me is that the Airworthiness Certificate is not
in full force and effect if the operator is aware of a condition that
renders the plane unairworthy. Neither the certificate nor the inspections
are a blank check to fly the plane. Everyone in the chain of
responsibility, shop, owner, PIC, is required to verify that the aircraft
remains in compliance. Not having a brake on one side, since it is probably
included in the type certificate, seems like a biggie to me.

Of course, here I am shooting my mouth off when we have a lawyer farther up
the thread. I'd actually love to find out I'm wrong about this one.
--
Roger Long

Here is a quote from my insurance policy:

"This policy does not apply:
...
2) To any Insured while the aircraft is in flight
...
(c) if the Airworthiness Certificate of the aircraft is
not in full force and effect;
(d) If the aircraft has not been subjected to appropriate
airworthiness inspection(s) as required under current
applicable Federal Aviation Regulations for the operations
involved."

As Roger said, it's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that, since
the aircraft was not airworthy, the insurance policy would not be in

force.

Pete




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Old September 29th 03, 03:51 PM
mike regish
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Wouldn't that just make it "ungroundworthy?" After all, you don't need the
brakes in the air. Well, not really anyway. Since I put new rubber on mine,
I noticed a vibration on takeoff. After a few takeoffs like this I thought
of the new rubber so now on takeoff, as soon as the wheels are up I pull the
brake handel. Vibration gone.

mike regish

"Roger Long" om wrote in
message ...
And, what the FAA guys tell me is that the Airworthiness Certificate is

not
in full force and effect if the operator is aware of a condition that
renders the plane unairworthy. Neither the certificate nor the

inspections
are a blank check to fly the plane. Everyone in the chain of
responsibility, shop, owner, PIC, is required to verify that the aircraft
remains in compliance. Not having a brake on one side, since it is

probably
included in the type certificate, seems like a biggie to me.

Of course, here I am shooting my mouth off when we have a lawyer farther

up
the thread. I'd actually love to find out I'm wrong about this one.
--
Roger Long

Here is a quote from my insurance policy:

"This policy does not apply:
...
2) To any Insured while the aircraft is in flight
...
(c) if the Airworthiness Certificate of the aircraft is
not in full force and effect;
(d) If the aircraft has not been subjected to appropriate
airworthiness inspection(s) as required under current
applicable Federal Aviation Regulations for the operations
involved."

As Roger said, it's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that,

since
the aircraft was not airworthy, the insurance policy would not be in

force.

Pete






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Old October 1st 03, 04:30 AM
Robert M. Gary
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Gotta hope that brake doesn't stick next time you land.


"mike regish" wrote in message
news:bGXdb.631317$Ho3.121638@sccrnsc03...
Wouldn't that just make it "ungroundworthy?" After all, you don't need the
brakes in the air. Well, not really anyway. Since I put new rubber on

mine,
I noticed a vibration on takeoff. After a few takeoffs like this I thought
of the new rubber so now on takeoff, as soon as the wheels are up I pull

the
brake handel. Vibration gone.

mike regish

"Roger Long" om wrote

in
message ...
And, what the FAA guys tell me is that the Airworthiness Certificate is

not
in full force and effect if the operator is aware of a condition that
renders the plane unairworthy. Neither the certificate nor the

inspections
are a blank check to fly the plane. Everyone in the chain of
responsibility, shop, owner, PIC, is required to verify that the

aircraft
remains in compliance. Not having a brake on one side, since it is

probably
included in the type certificate, seems like a biggie to me.

Of course, here I am shooting my mouth off when we have a lawyer farther

up
the thread. I'd actually love to find out I'm wrong about this one.
--
Roger Long

Here is a quote from my insurance policy:

"This policy does not apply:
...
2) To any Insured while the aircraft is in flight
...
(c) if the Airworthiness Certificate of the aircraft is
not in full force and effect;
(d) If the aircraft has not been subjected to appropriate
airworthiness inspection(s) as required under current
applicable Federal Aviation Regulations for the operations
involved."

As Roger said, it's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that,

since
the aircraft was not airworthy, the insurance policy would not be in

force.

Pete








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Old October 2nd 03, 09:08 PM
mike regish
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It'd be both of them. Pretty simple braking system. They're pretty weak to
begin with. Might not be fun, but it's unlikely to do any damage. I barely
have to pull the handle to stop the wheels in flight and both brakes always
apply. Don't have differential braking in a TP.

mike regish

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
.com...
Gotta hope that brake doesn't stick next time you land.


"mike regish" wrote in message
news:bGXdb.631317$Ho3.121638@sccrnsc03...
Wouldn't that just make it "ungroundworthy?" After all, you don't need

the
brakes in the air. Well, not really anyway. Since I put new rubber on

mine,
I noticed a vibration on takeoff. After a few takeoffs like this I

thought
of the new rubber so now on takeoff, as soon as the wheels are up I pull

the
brake handel. Vibration gone.

mike regish

"Roger Long" om wrote

in
message ...
And, what the FAA guys tell me is that the Airworthiness Certificate

is
not
in full force and effect if the operator is aware of a condition that
renders the plane unairworthy. Neither the certificate nor the

inspections
are a blank check to fly the plane. Everyone in the chain of
responsibility, shop, owner, PIC, is required to verify that the

aircraft
remains in compliance. Not having a brake on one side, since it is

probably
included in the type certificate, seems like a biggie to me.

Of course, here I am shooting my mouth off when we have a lawyer

farther
up
the thread. I'd actually love to find out I'm wrong about this one.
--
Roger Long

Here is a quote from my insurance policy:

"This policy does not apply:
...
2) To any Insured while the aircraft is in flight
...
(c) if the Airworthiness Certificate of the aircraft is
not in full force and effect;
(d) If the aircraft has not been subjected to appropriate
airworthiness inspection(s) as required under current
applicable Federal Aviation Regulations for the operations
involved."

As Roger said, it's entirely possible (and maybe even likely) that,

since
the aircraft was not airworthy, the insurance policy would not be in
force.

Pete










 




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