Moving violation..NASA form?

Nasir ) wrote:

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So I dont know what the solution is to that, but with so much to learn and
remember as a student, you sometimes forget if permission is required or not
and being cautious you go ahead and ask, but you get chewed out sometimes
that leaves you wondering if you should have asked!

Always better to err on the side of caution and ask. I hear commercial
airline pilots confirming frequencies, headings, altitudes, and the such
all the time, despite reading back the request moments earlier.

Realize that there are always going to be some crabby controllers mixed in
with a lot of good ones. Never take their attitude personally, for you
could be the pinnacle of comm radio excellence and still get barked at by a
controller having a bad day/life.

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Peter












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Realize that there are always going to be some crabby controllers mixed in
with a lot of good ones. Never take their attitude personally, for you
could be the pinnacle of comm radio excellence and still get barked at by
a
controller having a bad day/life.


Its amazing to me the number of controllers that have no aviation experience
outside of their jobs. This isn't to say that they are bad controllers
because of it. But, just like its good for pilots to visit the tower to see
how ATC works (can you still do that post-9/11?), I wonder how much training
the ATC folks get on "our" side of the fence.

My father was a PATCO controller (pre-Reagan firing) and he was in the
minority in that he had his PPL.

"Jeff Franks" wrote in message ...

My father was a PATCO controller (pre-Reagan firing) and he was in the
minority in that he had his PPL.

Yep, such is the nature of things. I saw a similar thing with ER docs and
Paramedics. Frequently neither new anything of the other's roles other than
what was in the official protocols (and sometimes a poor understanding of
that). I happened to be working in the ER one day when some intern was
standing their exasperated doing a cardiac consult with a unit in the field.
"I don't know what more they expect me to do for this patient." I pointed out
that they wanted her to tell them they could stop treatment on a dead patient.
Our protocols don't allow paramedics to discontinue treatment ONCE it is
started on our own authority.