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Old December 21st 03, 06:53 PM
Teacherjh
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14CFR Part 1

Sec 1.1

Flight time means:
(1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own
power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest
after landing; or


Ok, so I'm at Dulles. I start up, release the brakes, and start the timer.
Start taxiing (it takes forever at Dulles), do my runup, am sixteenth behind a
row of jumbos, have to hold a while for IFR release, andforty minutes later the
tower tells me position and hold. (not too far off for some flights!).
Cleared for takeoff, I accelerate to flying speed, but something isn't right,
so I abort the takeoff and taxi back to the ramp and shut down.

It's been an hour and eighteen minutes. Do you log it as 1.3? Do you log it
if you actually managed to get three feet in the air for twelve seconds before
aborting the takeoff and landing again on the mile of runway remaining?

Jose

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Old December 21st 03, 07:15 PM
Tony Cox
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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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It's been an hour and eighteen minutes. Do you log it as 1.3? Do you log

it
if you actually managed to get three feet in the air for twelve seconds

before
aborting the takeoff and landing again on the mile of runway remaining?


If your intent was flight (even if you didn't get off
the ground), then my understanding is that you can
indeed log it.


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Old December 22nd 03, 12:44 AM
Bob Fry
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"Tony Cox" writes:

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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It's been an hour and eighteen minutes. Do you log it as 1.3? Do you log

it
if you actually managed to get three feet in the air for twelve seconds

before
aborting the takeoff and landing again on the mile of runway remaining?


If your intent was flight (even if you didn't get off
the ground), then my understanding is that you can
indeed log it.


And why not? In the hypothetical (it *is*, right?), he got the engine
started, talked to Departure, Ground, and Tower, dodged big iron and
got to the starting point of the runway at a huge, confusing
airport...that's lots more work than I do to go around the patch at my
non-towered field.
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Old December 22nd 03, 01:52 AM
Tony Cox
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"Bob Fry" wrote in message
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"Tony Cox" writes:

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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It's been an hour and eighteen minutes. Do you log it as 1.3? Do you

log
it
if you actually managed to get three feet in the air for twelve

seconds
before
aborting the takeoff and landing again on the mile of runway

remaining?


If your intent was flight (even if you didn't get off
the ground), then my understanding is that you can
indeed log it.


And why not? In the hypothetical (it *is*, right?), he got the engine
started, talked to Departure, Ground, and Tower, dodged big iron and
got to the starting point of the runway at a huge, confusing
airport...that's lots more work than I do to go around the patch at my
non-towered field.


Yes, but if his intention was just to do a fast taxi, he'd
do all the same talking, dodging & ground navigating but
not be able to log it. Odd, don't you think?


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Old December 22nd 03, 02:36 AM
Teacherjh
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Yes, but if his intention was just to do a fast taxi, he'd
do all the same talking, dodging & ground navigating but
not be able to log it. Odd, don't you think?


The rules say "with intention of flight" and "landed".

If you have intention of flight, but never actually leave the ground, you can't
stop logging. So, by that token, I have sixty eight thousand hours in a Tiger.

Jose

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