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Old April 2nd 04, 07:43 PM
Dennis O'Connor
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Ya know, of airline pilots involved in a fatal crash, in excess of 95% of
them had caffeine in their bloodstream at autopsy... Now, there is a
definite causal relationship between a drug and crashes that is being swept
under the rug - I smell a scandal here, a Pulitzer even... Where are
Bernstein and Woodworth, they must be sleeping at the switch...

Gawd I love statistics, I can prove anything!

denny
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:55:46 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in Message-Id:
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Has it resulted in friendly-fire accidents? Yes, there have been
friendly-fire accidents. Yes, some of those pilots have been on 'go'

pills.
But I have never seen an incident where it was established that the use

of
'go' pills was the primary cause or even a significant factor in the
accident. It can even be argued the heightened alertness of the pilots
actually prevents these accidents from happening more often.


From the original article:

Also known as "speed," and, in the military, as "go pills,"
amphetamines are considered essential by some in the military to
maintaining a top-notch fighting force. Their use was not publicly
well-known until the drugs were implicated in a friendly-fire
incident in Afghanistan in 2002, in which an American F-16 pilot
mistakenly dropped a laser-guided bomb on Canadian soldiers,
killing four of them.

So while not yet an established cause of frendly-fire incidents, "go
pills" (amphetamines) seem to have been implicated as causal.




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Old April 2nd 04, 08:03 PM
curious12357
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Lol, I agree Dennis,

Yep, a lot of people confuse correlation with causation.

If it rained the last four times you washed your car, there's a
100% correlation between you washing your car and it raining.
But you washing your car has 0% causation.

As the old saying goes....

figures dont lie
but liars figure



On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 13:43:19 -0500, "Dennis O'Connor"
wrote:

Ya know, of airline pilots involved in a fatal crash, in excess of 95% of
them had caffeine in their bloodstream at autopsy... Now, there is a
definite causal relationship between a drug and crashes that is being swept
under the rug - I smell a scandal here, a Pulitzer even... Where are
Bernstein and Woodworth, they must be sleeping at the switch...

Gawd I love statistics, I can prove anything!

denny
"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 08:55:46 -0800, "C J Campbell"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

Has it resulted in friendly-fire accidents? Yes, there have been
friendly-fire accidents. Yes, some of those pilots have been on 'go'

pills.
But I have never seen an incident where it was established that the use

of
'go' pills was the primary cause or even a significant factor in the
accident. It can even be argued the heightened alertness of the pilots
actually prevents these accidents from happening more often.


From the original article:

Also known as "speed," and, in the military, as "go pills,"
amphetamines are considered essential by some in the military to
maintaining a top-notch fighting force. Their use was not publicly
well-known until the drugs were implicated in a friendly-fire
incident in Afghanistan in 2002, in which an American F-16 pilot
mistakenly dropped a laser-guided bomb on Canadian soldiers,
killing four of them.

So while not yet an established cause of frendly-fire incidents, "go
pills" (amphetamines) seem to have been implicated as causal.




 




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