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Another Cirrus BRS deployment:



 
 
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Old April 15th 04, 04:34 PM
Richard Kaplan
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"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
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More options equals better risk management. In this specific incident, the
occupants would likely have been severly injured or killed if the plane

had
forward motion when it encountered the pine trees.


There may well be advantages from a BRS, including a softer landing on pine
trees

I do not, however, believe that the occupants would likely have been
severely injured or killed if the plane had forward motion when it
encountered pine trees. It is quite common for airplanes to land on trees
and then the occupants walk away unharmed; the pilot needs to keep flying
the airplane all the way until touchdown and he also needs to land into the
wind.


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Old April 16th 04, 05:39 AM
John Ousterhout
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:34:25 GMT, "Richard Kaplan"
wrote:

I do not, however, believe that the occupants would likely have been
severely injured or killed if the plane had forward motion when it
encountered pine trees. It is quite common for airplanes to land on trees
and then the occupants walk away unharmed; the pilot needs to keep flying
the airplane all the way until touchdown and he also needs to land into the
wind.


It is also quite common for a landing in trees to be fatal. I
believe that the experts would disagree with you about landing in
trees.

Here in Western Oregon we have more fir trees than pine trees but I
would always choose to use the BRS rather than execute a forced
landing in the trees.

I was skeptical about airbags in autos, but I've been convinced of
their effectiveness. I was also skeptical of the BRS but I'm becoming
convinced of their effectiveness.

Did you also acuse pilots of flying carelessly once they had seat
belts?

- John Ousterhout -


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Old April 16th 04, 08:18 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"John Ousterhout"
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I was skeptical about airbags in autos, but I've been convinced of
their effectiveness. I was also skeptical of the BRS but I'm becoming
convinced of their effectiveness.

Did you also acuse pilots of flying carelessly once they had seat
belts?


Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

Same thing with St. Christopher medals, I'd imagine. :~)




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Old April 16th 04, 02:10 PM
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Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

Same thing with St. Christopher medals, I'd imagine. :~


Well, GOD HELP US ALL if they start selling aviation grade plastic Jesuses for
mounting on the instrument panel.....pilots will start taking all kinds of
risks then

take care

Blll
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Old April 16th 04, 05:41 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"BllFs6" wrote in message
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Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves

invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

Same thing with St. Christopher medals, I'd imagine. :~


Well, GOD HELP US ALL if they start selling aviation grade plastic Jesuses

for
mounting on the instrument panel.....pilots will start taking all kinds of
risks then


I'll see your plastic Jesus and raise you two medal St.Christopher's...


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Old April 16th 04, 11:38 PM
Dave Stadt
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"BllFs6" wrote in message
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Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves

invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

Same thing with St. Christopher medals, I'd imagine. :~


Well, GOD HELP US ALL if they start selling aviation grade plastic

Jesuses
for
mounting on the instrument panel.....pilots will start taking all kinds

of
risks then


I'll see your plastic Jesus and raise you two medal St.Christopher's...



Christopher was de dashboarded wasn't he?



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Old April 17th 04, 01:34 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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"BllFs6" wrote in message
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Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves

invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

Same thing with St. Christopher medals, I'd imagine. :~

Well, GOD HELP US ALL if they start selling aviation grade plastic

Jesuses
for
mounting on the instrument panel.....pilots will start taking all

kinds
of
risks then


I'll see your plastic Jesus and raise you two medal St.Christopher's...



Christopher was de dashboarded wasn't he?

Yes...it was really horrible. Accident rates skyrocketed.



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Old April 16th 04, 11:55 PM
John Ousterhout
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On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:18:54 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

Did you also acuse pilots of flying carelessly once they had seat
belts?


Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).


Could you please cite a source for this dubious "fact".

- J.O.-


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Old April 17th 04, 01:32 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"John Ousterhout"
wrote in message ...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 00:18:54 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

Did you also acuse pilots of flying carelessly once they had seat
belts?


Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves

invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).


Could you please cite a source for this dubious "fact".

Common talk back in the 60's; TV ad promo's.

You know, things did happen before you were born and before there was an
internet. :~)



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Old April 17th 04, 09:20 AM
Thomas Borchert
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Tom,

Common talk back in the 60's; TV ad promo's.


What proof! So we must have aliens amongst us, too, I guess.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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