Another Cirrus BRS deployment:

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:32:51 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves
invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

John Ousterhout wrote:
Could you please cite a source for this dubious "fact".

Tom SIxkiler wrote:
Common talk back in the 60's; TV ad promo's.

You know, things did happen before you were born and before there was an
internet. :~)

I did not ask for a hyperlink, nor did I imply that an Internet source
was required. You may cite a newspaper or magazine if you wish.
However "common talk" is unacceptable and you know it. Had you asked
for corroboration and received "common talk" as an answer, I would
expect you to reply "bull****".

- J.O.-

"John Ousterhout"
wrote in message ...
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 17:32:51 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people thinking themselves
invincible
when seatbelts started becoming commonplace in cars (1960's).

John Ousterhout wrote:
Could you please cite a source for this dubious "fact".

Tom SIxkiler wrote:
Common talk back in the 60's; TV ad promo's.

You know, things did happen before you were born and before there was an
internet. :~)

I did not ask for a hyperlink, nor did I imply that an Internet source
was required. You may cite a newspaper or magazine if you wish.
However "common talk" is unacceptable and you know it. Had you asked
for corroboration and received "common talk" as an answer, I would
expect you to reply "bull****".

Why don't you go screw yourself, punk.

Dan

The ethnic broad who ran Metro and put in, got a bonus and skipped
town before the S*** H** the F** (

Who but Texas A & M (they were contracted to evaluate the problem)
would OK putting a 60 MPH train down the center of a 4 lane City
street ( and not expect problems when only two lanes were left for
two way auto traffic (one each way) ?????

I'm riding the Trolley Monday going to Doc and will have first hand
experience on it then.

Funny system. You buy a ticket and get on and there is no one to check
your ticket. Wonder the cost of ticket checker vs lost revenue for
people not buying tickets?????????

Crazy City, Houston.

Big John
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:35:13 -0500, "Dan Luke"
wrote:


"Big John" wrote:
Come to Houston. New Mayor just synchronized part
of the down town lights and is working on the rest and
he's even a Democrat )

When did they get un-synchronized? The downtown lights were
synchronized in Houston when I learned to drive in the '60s and were
still that way when I left in 1990.

Our new Tooter Ville Trolley, running down main street,
is still hitting cars. Has had around 35 accidents since
start of business early in year
(just before Super Bowel) (

I'm not totally up to speed on that thing, but from what I hear from
family & friends in Houston, it sounds like the dumbest boondoggle in
America.

Mary

Short answer. My sources tell me that it is the FAA and having
explosives in/on the aircraft.

Big John

Big John

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:27:56 -0700, Mary Shafer
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:08:04 GMT, David Reinhart
wrote:

It's my understanding that ejection seats aren't allowed on civil aircraft
because the pyrotechnics used are illegal for civillians to own. They're
considered controlled military munitions.

Can the fact that ejection seats weigh something like 600 lb each have
anything to do with their not being used in GA aircraft?

Privately owned aircraft can have working ejection seats, though.

Mary

Bill

Have you seen the clip of the Navy bird that lost AB's coming off the
CAT shot? He banked 20-30 degrees and ejected and made it with his
Zero Zero system.. If he hadn't banked, the Carrier would have run
over him and after going through the props not much is left (my Navy
friends told me when I was with them in the tail hook Sq)..

Big John


On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:26:19 -0500, "Bill Denton"
wrote:

NOTE: I'm working from memory of some things I read about three years ago.
If I have any errors or omissions please post a correction.
training and human nature.

----clip----

Consider a pilot in a jet fighter on an aircraft carrier. He gives his
"thumbs up", the catapult fires, and he begins his takeoff roll. But just
after he rotates, all engines flame out. The pilot then has two options: a
restart, or an eject. If he ejects, he saves himself, but he loses the
airplane. If he restarts, he and the plane both come out OK. But there's a
problem with the restart option: if it is not begun immediately or if it
takes too long, an eject will not work; the chute will not open.

So the pilot is taught that under this set of circumstances he shouldn't
even consider a restart, he should just eject.

----clip----

Richard

Come to Houston. We run stop and stop on our InterStates and Freeways
in town. Verticl impact would be greater than horizontal from traffic
probably?

Big John

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 04:58:10 GMT, "Richard Kaplan"
wrote:



"David Reinhart" wrote in message
...

Landing on big high tension lines would probably cut the airplane up. As
to the
Interstate and downtown, less damage would probably result than if the
aircraft
hit the ground at some speed above stall.

Are you assuming traffic on the interstate?


--------------------
Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

Ash,

There was a drop in driver and passenger
deaths. There was also an increase in pedestrian and cyclist deaths.


Yes? So? What's the correlation?

There is a steady decline in both the number of newborn babies in
Germany and the number of storks living here. Is that proof for the
traditional belief that storks bring the babies?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

SlackKiller claims: Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people
thinking themselves
invincible

Oyster responds: Had you asked
for corroboration and received "common talk" as an answer, I would
expect you to reply "bull****".

SixKilled adroitly responds:Why don't you go screw yourself, punk.


Proof positive that at least one jerk considers himself invincible, and
inarguable. Take away his seatbelts!

Thomas Borchert opined

Ash,

There was a drop in driver and passenger
deaths. There was also an increase in pedestrian and cyclist deaths.


Yes? So? What's the correlation?

Change in law, deaths inside cars go down with increased seatbelt usage as
expected. But there was an increase in deaths outside of cars at the same
time.

Sounds like a correlation to me.

There is a steady decline in both the number of newborn babies in
Germany and the number of storks living here. Is that proof for the
traditional belief that storks bring the babies?

It's a correlation.

There is a difference. There is no theory to tie storks and babies together.
There is a reason to tie seatbelt usage ( _and other safety devices_ ) to
changes in death rates. Insurance changes behaviour.



-ash
Cthulhu for President!
Why vote for a lesser evil?

"StellaStar" wrote in message
...
SlackKiller claims: Actually, (IIRC), there was a surge in people
thinking themselves
invincible

Oyster responds: Had you asked
for corroboration and received "common talk" as an answer, I would
expect you to reply "bull****".

SixKilled adroitly responds:Why don't you go screw yourself, punk.


Proof positive that at least one jerk considers himself invincible, and
inarguable. Take away his seatbelts!

If you notice, I said (IIRC) which means, since you either don't know or
don't bother to pay close enough attention, "If I Recall Correctly"). How
does that claim invincibility?

I was making a comment, not trying to score debating points with a punk who
wasn't me to corroborate something that was a passing fancy 40 years ago.

If you think this spunk that comes back as so high and mighty is
"invincible" then have at it. Stella, you're a nice lady, but sometimes
you're really full of it.