Media screws up again...

"gatt" wrote in message
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It's interesting watching pilots trash-talking journalists for not knowing
everything


Pilots don't trash-talk journalists for for not knowing everything. Pilots
trash-talk journalists for knowing nothing about aviation yet
authoritatively saying something about aviation that is incorrect and
frequently harmful to it.



and assuming that journalists make "big bucks." There's
interesting similarities. It's one of the highest-profile and most
treacherous trades, and also one of the lowest-paying.


Because it's something that just about anyone can do.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

It's interesting watching pilots trash-talking journalists for not
knowing
everything

Pilots don't trash-talk journalists for for not knowing everything.
Pilots
trash-talk journalists for knowing nothing about aviation yet
authoritatively saying something about aviation that is incorrect and
frequently harmful to it.

Everybody trash talks journalists for not knowing as much as they do about
whatever field of expertise they are in. See my point? Yet they still
read the papers, still watch the news...
We've got journalists coming home unceremoniously in body bags from Iraq.
Bet you don't even know their names, but I bet you've seen the footage of
action and soldiers in Iraq.

It's one of the highest-profile and most
treacherous trades, and also one of the lowest-paying.

Because it's something that just about anyone can do.

Yeah, and so is flying. Unlike most readers here, I'm willing to bet, I've
done both so I'm uniquely qualified to say that one is no more difficult
than the other.

Here's an actual case. A streetcar catches fire and because the streetcar
had inadequate or inoperative exits, the people inside tried to crawl out
the side windows but burned to death before they could get out. You've got
a public photo of a burned out streetcar with over a dozen charred corpses
still in the position of desperately trying to get out of the windows. Can
you, or can you not, publish the story? Quick: You have an hour to make
deadline.

Your former state governor is accused of repeatedly molesting a 13 year old
when he was the mayor of your city. Can you or can you not report the
story? If so, will his lawyers sue you anyway?

You witness a murder and recognize both the victim and the killer. Can you
or can you not print a story or show photos, and can you or can you not
print their names.

There's a school shooting. It's major news; people's kids are being killed.
What do you do?
Quick: IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AND YOU MUST REPORT FOR LIVE TELEVISION
RIGHT -NOW-.

One of my reporters--an unpaid intern--wrote a critical review of somebody
one time, telling the absolute truth, and ended up with his jaw wired shut
for eight weeks because the tweaker he wrote about saw him on the street.
I've been threatened with lawsuit, threatened with assault...sometimes for
articles I didn't even write.

Have any of you written reporters to correct them, or do you just complain?

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

It's interesting watching pilots trash-talking journalists for not
knowing
everything

Pilots don't trash-talk journalists for for not knowing everything.
Pilots
trash-talk journalists for knowing nothing about aviation yet
authoritatively saying something about aviation that is incorrect and
frequently harmful to it.

Everybody trash talks journalists for not knowing as much as they do about
whatever field of expertise they are in. See my point? Yet they still
read the papers, still watch the news...

Non-sequitur.

Women get raped, but they still go into town...

We've got journalists coming home unceremoniously in body bags from Iraq.
Bet you don't even know their names, but I bet you've seen the footage of
action and soldiers in Iraq.

Non-sequitur.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message news:BA4yc.32$

We've got journalists coming home unceremoniously in body bags from
Iraq.
Bet you don't even know their names, but I bet you've seen the footage
of
action and soldiers in Iraq.

Non-sequitur.

No, it's no more of a nonsequitor than your exact statment, in response to
my
"It's one of the highest-profile and most treacherous trades" which was:
[you:]

Yeah...so many got killed last year."

Which, like I said, also insinuates that flying is dangerous.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message news:BA4yc.32$

We've got journalists coming home unceremoniously in body bags from
Iraq.
Bet you don't even know their names, but I bet you've seen the footage
of
action and soldiers in Iraq.

Non-sequitur.

No, it's no more of a nonsequitor than your exact statment, in response to
my
"It's one of the highest-profile and most treacherous trades" which was:
[you:]

Yeah...so many got killed last year."

Which, like I said, also insinuates that flying is dangerous.


Of those things you listed that they ostensibly teach in journalism schools,
evidently logic and critical thinking are not on the list.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message news:Zs5yc.42

Which, like I said, also insinuates that flying is dangerous.

Of those things you listed that they ostensibly teach in journalism
schools,
evidently logic and critical thinking are not on the list.

Ad hominum noted. I will not engage in that sort of discussion on this
newsgroup. If you don't like the way the media works, start your own
publication. Until then, you might as well be some anti-aviation type
telling pilots how a planes fly. Like them, you simply do not know what
you're talking about.

I have a degree in journalism, I have worked in the journalism industry in
both civilian life and in the military, and I am also a pilot. I -am-
qualified to discuss these issues and I have no reason to accept personal
insults from somebody who has lesser experience.

I have no further interest in your opinion or discussion with you. The next
time you watch, read, or listen to the news, remember this: You did so
voluntarily.

-gattman

"gatt" wrote in message
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I have a degree in journalism, I have worked in the journalism industry in
both civilian life and in the military, and I am also a pilot. I -am-
qualified to discuss these issues and I have no reason to accept personal
insults from somebody who has lesser experience.


If you have a degree in journalism you are obviously biased.

"gatt" wrote in message
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Everybody trash talks journalists for not knowing as much as they do about
whatever field of expertise they are in. See my point? Yet they still
read the papers, still watch the news...


Yeah, but I read the papers and watch the news with the knowledge the
reporter probably got it wrong.



Yeah, and so is flying.


Lousy pilots weed themselves out eventually. Lousy reporters keep on
reporting.



Have any of you written reporters to correct them, or do you just
complain?


I write frequently, I sometimes receive a response, I have yet to see a
correction in print. Getting the story is far more important than getting
the story right. That's the state of journalism today.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
nk.net...

"gatt" wrote in message
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Have any of you written reporters to correct them, or do you just
complain?


I write frequently, I sometimes receive a response, I have yet to see a
correction in print. Getting the story is far more important than getting
the story right. That's the state of journalism today.

And that's why so many say the "news" and "entertainment" are so close as to
be indistinguishable. See Michael Moore for a example.

Tom Sixkiller wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"gatt" wrote in message
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Have any of you written reporters to correct them, or do you just
complain?

I write frequently, I sometimes receive a response, I have yet to
see a correction in print. Getting the story is far more important
than getting the story right. That's the state of journalism
today.


And that's why so many say the "news" and "entertainment" are so
close as to be indistinguishable. See Michael Moore for a example.

Or pretty much anything on Fox...