Media screws up again...

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

Are their deadlines measured in hours or minutes like pressroom
reporters
are?

I've often wondered why getting the story first trumped getting the story
right.

Capitalism, and the fact (or theory, at least) that the news source the
reports a story FIRST is the one that people follow the most. But, your
question is valid. The editor exists as the moderator between the
publisher's demand for information NOW and the reporter's human capacity to
report accurate information in increasingly shorter periods of time.

The publisher (and the advertisers) demand the information pronto. The
reporter has to get it all as accurately as possible, and it's the editor's
job to fact-check EVERY story at the last minute. If he/she misses a
deadline it is likely to cost the publication money and the editor his job.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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Capitalism, and the fact (or theory, at least) that the news source the
reports a story FIRST is the one that people follow the most. But, your
question is valid. The editor exists as the moderator between the
publisher's demand for information NOW and the reporter's human
capacity to report accurate information in increasingly shorter periods of
time.

The publisher (and the advertisers) demand the information pronto. The
reporter has to get it all as accurately as possible, and it's the
editor's
job to fact-check EVERY story at the last minute.


They're not doing very good jobs.



If he/she misses a
deadline it is likely to cost the publication money and the editor his
job.


Getting it wrong consistently and losing readers as a result tends to cost
the publication money as well.

Getting it wrong consistently and losing readers as a result tends to cost
the publication money as well.


Yep. That's why the tabloids have gone belly-up.

Jose

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"gatt" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

Are their deadlines measured in hours or minutes like pressroom
reporters
are?

I've often wondered why getting the story first trumped getting the
story
right.

Capitalism, and the fact (or theory, at least) that the news source the
reports a story FIRST is the one that people follow the most.

Well, now the truth comes out.

Okay...he's a clue that supports Steven's and my contention: You don't know
dick about capitalism (which has to closely guard it's reputation...also,
what we have under the FCC is certainly not capitalism, but I'm sure you got
the opposite info in journalsim school), but you (and your cohorts) love to
shoot your mouths off.

Thanks for that; you just made our case.

But, your
question is valid. The editor exists as the moderator between the
publisher's demand for information NOW and the reporter's human capacity
to
report accurate information in increasingly shorter periods of time.

The publisher (and the advertisers) demand the information pronto. The
reporter has to get it all as accurately as possible, and it's the
editor's
job to fact-check EVERY story at the last minute. If he/she misses a
deadline it is likely to cost the publication money and the editor his
job.

Really? Could you name a few instances where an editor got fired for this
(other than for outright fraud...which even THAT doesn't have much impact?


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It works on contention. When a new fact
is announced, it is attacked voraciously
from all sides and corners. If it holds up,
and proves to be true, it is then, and only
then, accepted as a fact.

With real science, you don't need
consensus. Only facts." - Dave Hitt

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message news:ydoyc.41

Okay...he's a clue that supports Steven's and my contention: You don't
know
dick about capitalism (which has to closely guard it's reputation...also,
what we have under the FCC is certainly not capitalism, but I'm sure you
got
the opposite info in journalsim school), but you (and your cohorts) love
to
shoot your mouths off.

More ad hominem attacks. Classy. Ya can't talk about a subject with
somebody who has a degree and management experience in the subject, so you
belitte my education and experience. I guess you know everything about
everything. Classic usenet trash.

*plonk*

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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More ad hominem attacks. Classy. Ya can't talk about a subject with
somebody who has a degree and management experience in the subject,
so you belitte my education and experience. I guess you know everything
about everything. Classic usenet trash.


Poor journalists are not born, they're created in journalism schools.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

More ad hominem attacks. Classy. Ya can't talk about a subject with
somebody who has a degree and management experience in the subject,
so you belitte my education and experience. I guess you know everything
about everything. Classic usenet trash.

Poor journalists are not born, they're created in journalism schools.

Strawman, but, entertain me. Which journalism schools? Can ya name any or
are you still talking out of your ass? Name a journalism school. Where'd
you learn about journalism? The internet?

Are you one of those guys that knows more than your doctor, flies better
than your airline pilot and knows you could fix your car better than your
mechanic, too?

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
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Strawman, but, entertain me. Which journalism schools? Can ya
name any or are you still talking out of your ass? Name a journalism
school.


Ehh? Are you saying journalists don't go to journalism school? Or are you
saying there are no poor journalists?



Where'd you learn about journalism? The internet?


Primarily by examining the work of journalists. Where'd you learn about it?



Are you one of those guys that knows more than your doctor, flies better
than your airline pilot and knows you could fix your car better than your
mechanic, too?


No, but I am one of those guys that understands what constitutes good
journalism.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

Strawman, but, entertain me. Which journalism schools? Can ya
name any or are you still talking out of your ass? Name a journalism
school.

Ehh? Are you saying journalists don't go to journalism school? Or are
you
saying there are no poor journalists?

Ah. Not even a good attempt at a dodge. I asked you to name a journalism
school and you failed. Either you're attention deficit, or dodging. Either
way, you don't know what you're talking about and don't have anything to
back up your opinion. I do.

In common terminology, you're talking out of your ass. I'm not.

-c

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
news

"gatt" wrote in message
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Strawman, but, entertain me. Which journalism schools? Can ya
name any or are you still talking out of your ass? Name a journalism
school.


Ehh? Are you saying journalists don't go to journalism school? Or are
you
saying there are no poor journalists?



Where'd you learn about journalism? The internet?


Primarily by examining the work of journalists. Where'd you learn about
it?



Are you one of those guys that knows more than your doctor, flies better
than your airline pilot and knows you could fix your car better than
your
mechanic, too?


No, but I am one of those guys that understands what constitutes good
journalism.

I think "gatt" is doing a good job of proving your point, Steve.