Media screws up again...

gatt wrote:

Yep. Abuses happen in every industry from journalism to law enforcement.
And lots of small planes crash. You hear about it on the news all the time.
A sucker might be given to believe that it happens more often than not
because of what they hear in the media.

Actually, relatively few crash. If lots of them did, it wouldn't be news.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message news:69uzc.24424

Doesn't do much for the credability of the award.

I'm sure you'll have no difficulty providing a source. Of course, if
you
do, it will be a media source. Now, ain't that ironic?

Janet Cooke, Washington Post, 1981. She made up a story about an 8 year
old
heroin addict. The story was a total fabrication.

Wow. So the closest example you could find was 23 years ago, which means
there are pilots on this forum that weren't yet born when it happened. But
I commend you for finding a reference anyhow.

-c

"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message news:40ce6ae0$0$32614

Then why is Fox stomping their asses, huh?

Because Fox is better at whoring?

I particularly appreciated the sentimental soundtrack and loop slow-motion
video clips of the 9/11 crashes they played ad nauseum. As a rule, if they
have to use a soundtrack to emotionalize a straight news story, it's both
poor journalism AND biased.

-c

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message

I think "gatt" is doing a good job of proving your point, Steve.

Without realizing it, of course.

LOL! The two little media-expert elves (trolls? fairies?) unite! Now
they're twice as clueless.

I bet neither of them has ever so much as -attempted- to write or publish an
actual news article. Maybe if they go hang out at the international airport
they'll be air transport experts, too.

-c

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message

You simply have not displayed a single qualification to say, with any
authority, what I do or do not get. Your opinion here is worth nothing.

I didn't attend a journalism school. You did. That makes me more
qualified
than you.

That's awesome. "I'm uneducated so I know more than you do." Wow...just
think of how much smarter you'd be if you never learned to read at all.

I bet you'd fly better if you'd never taken lessons. That's assuming, of
course, that you actually fly at all. Welcome to my killfile.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message
...

LOL! The two little media-expert elves (trolls? fairies?) unite! Now
they're twice as clueless.

I bet neither of them has ever so much as -attempted- to write or publish
an
actual news article. Maybe if they go hang out at the international
airport
they'll be air transport experts, too.


I have an idea. Why don't you provide a sample of your journalistic efforts
so we can judge the quality of your work? Let us see if you're a competent
journalist or not.

"gatt" wrote in message
...

That's awesome. "I'm uneducated so I know more than you do." Wow...just
think of how much smarter you'd be if you never learned to read at all.


You consider someone that hasn't attended journalism school to be
uneducated? How arrogant! You've just illustrated the primary problem with
journalism today.

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message

Yep. Abuses happen in every industry from journalism to law
enforcement.
And lots of small planes crash. You hear about it on the news all the
time.
A sucker might be given to believe that it happens more often than not
because of what they hear in the media.

Actually, relatively few crash. If lots of them did, it wouldn't be news.

My point exactly. People who do not understand how the media works think
they can't go out at night without being victimized, can't get in airplanes
without crashing, can't drive a jeep without it flipping over...

Mechanically speaking, however, that is the reader's interpretation of the
information. An informed reader would note the dramatic footage of a news
helicopter crashing and understand that it was a rare and dramatic event.
Another viewer might assume that all news helicopters crash.

A third viewer will videotape the story, watch it over and over and then
rant about media bias, and a forth, who flew MS Flight Simulator 2004 a lot
and thinks he's a pilot, might assert that it was pilot error and anybody
who tells them otherwise obviously didn't get proper helicopter flying
instruction. There are a couple of the latter on this newsgroup, it would
seem.

-c

"gatt" wrote in message ...
"Dave Stadt" wrote in message news:CRpzc.53

Biased journalists regularly receive journalism awards.

Won any yourself?

Didn't somebody not too long ago win one for a totally made up story?

Cite, please. Let me guess: You heard it on the news.

Doesn't do much for the credability of the award.

I'm sure you'll have no difficulty providing a source. Of course, if you
do, it will be a media source. Now, ain't that ironic?

Well he did provide a correct reference to Janet Cooke. If she
hadn't publicly admitted it, yes, I would be skeptical.

Even well known journalists from major outlets are not above faking
it when they don't have the facts. More recent examples are Jack
Keller (5 time Pulitzer nominee) USA Today, Rick Bragg (Pulitzer
winner) NYT and Stephen Glass TNR. There are more, but I think you
get the point.

Gatt, after the hatchet job piece that CBS did on GA security, I
don't think you'll get many in here to believe that journalistic
ethics are what they are purported to be.

I was personally the subject of a local hatchet job after a plane
crash. It was reported by a local TV station that I had been
violating restricted airspace and had probably run out of fuel. None
of it was true, but it was picked up and repeated by other reporters.
When I contacted the original reporter to correct him, he told me that
his source was a (non-pilot) government employee who did not witness
the crash, but was working near the crash site. Very impressive
reporting. When I asked about a retraction or correction, the reporter
laughed and said it was "yesterday's news" and nobody cared anymore.

Ironically, a few years later, another local outlet stopped me at
the airport and asked if I would speculate about the cause of a recent
crash. I told them I had no factual information about the crash.
They said that was OK, would I do it anyway? I laughed and walked
away. That night, I was amused to see the FBO's (non-pilot) lineboy
on TV, spewing drivel about the cause of the crash.

I long ago lost faith in what the talking/writing heads had to tell
me. Getting the fastest or most tittilating story has become more
important than reporting the facts. Of course, with your background,
you should know that.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Tom Sixkiller wrote:

"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message
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"gatt" wrote in message
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"Rich Ahrens" wrote in message news:40c92722$0$78545



I've often wondered why getting the story first trumped getting the
story right.

Because they're rewarded by the readers/viewers for getting it first,
for one thing.

Yep. Consumer demand.


Look up the word "whore".

Look up the word "capitalist."


That's a "capitalist" that'll be out of business quite soon...just like any
other hokey merchant....as the mainstream media is rapidly learning.

Oh sure. Meeting consumer demand is a sure way to go out of business...