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Old June 26th 04, 06:14 PM
C J Campbell
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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No, I think Windows as it currently stands is unsuitable for the general
public. Windows as it stands is fine in an environment where a corporate
admin can look after the network. It's not the users fault, it's the
fault of Microsoft because the configuration is insecure by default.

Windows as it stands should have at
least the software firewall on *by default* and almost all services
(most services which home users will never use) *off* by default.


Actually, it is home users that tend to use those services the most, for
things like on-line gaming and such.

Now, I know a lot of Windows users. I realize that most computer admin types
have real problems with trusting the general public with anything more
complicated than an Etch-A-Sketch, but I tend to believe that the general
public is a little smarter than that. All the home users I know have
personal firewalls, anti-virus software, etc.

The vulnerable computers that I have seen are the office computers which are
maintained by so-called professional administrators who have turned off all
these protections for their own convenience.


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Old June 27th 04, 05:40 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Now, I know a lot of Windows users. I realize that most computer admin

types
have real problems with trusting the general public with anything more
complicated than an Etch-A-Sketch, but I tend to believe that the general
public is a little smarter than that. All the home users I know have
personal firewalls, anti-virus software, etc.


Considering that something like over 80% of "general public" people run
their internet connection with no firewall and no virus protection, that's
interesting.

The vulnerable computers that I have seen are the office computers which

are
maintained by so-called professional administrators who have turned off

all
these protections for their own convenience.


Really? How many have you seen?



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Old June 27th 04, 05:42 AM
Tom Sixkiller
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Now, I know a lot of Windows users. I realize that most computer admin

types
have real problems with trusting the general public with anything more
complicated than an Etch-A-Sketch, but I tend to believe that the general
public is a little smarter than that. All the home users I know have
personal firewalls, anti-virus software, etc.

The vulnerable computers that I have seen are the office computers which

are
maintained by so-called professional administrators who have turned off

all
these protections for their own convenience.


Sounds like CJ is shilling for the local (Washington) company. :~)


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Old June 27th 04, 09:16 AM
Dylan Smith
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In article , C J Campbell wrote:
Actually, it is home users that tend to use those services the most, for
things like on-line gaming and such.


Umm, I play rather too many online games than is healthy, but I've never
needed to use the services in question (for example, RPC and LSASS, two
recently exploited services in Windows). In fact, my hardware firewall
doesn't allow anyone from the Internet to connect to a port on my PC yet
all the games I play work.

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Old June 27th 04, 04:14 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Dylan Smith wrote:

nyone from the Internet to connect to a port on my PC yet
all the games I play work.


I'm not much of a game player (since xtrek became unpopular {8^), but I'm in
an organization which includes a number of game builders. They've
impressed me with their tricks for dealing with firewalls (really: the NAT
boxes most consumers call firewalls). From my rough observation, in fact,
they're ahead of the H.323 industry in that area.

Those softwares often still have issues with firewalls and NAT boxes, though
improvements have been occurring.

- Andrew

 




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