irrefutable bottom line about picture ID's

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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The Nation provides the corporation with workers and with the mechanisms
for
raising capital. The Nation's security and police forces provide a
civilized background against which the Corporation can do its business
with
some semblance of safety, security, and reasonable expectation of
longevity.... not only to its entity, but to its people, its material,
and
its capital. The Nation's network of laws provide displute-settlement
mechanisms to help ensure that the Corporation will not be cheated, and
that
help it carry out business in a level playing field. In many cases, the
Corporation has received preferential tax treatment to locate plants in
a
particular location to assist local economy.

I would argue that it is very much the responsibility of Corporations to
"give a real damn for their country".

Where your logic goes awry is when you forget the very simple fact that
Corporations are made up of citizens, just like you and me.



So how is the logic awry? If corporations are made up of citizens like you
and me, is it not a responsibility of those citizens to "give a real damn
for their country", given all that the country provides to the
corporation????

The Nation provides the corporation with workers and with the
mechanisms for raising capital. The Nation's security and police
forces provide a civilized background against which the Corporation
can do its business with some semblance of safety, security, and
reasonable expectation of longevity.... not only to its entity, but
to its people, its material, and its capital. The Nation's network
of laws provide displute-settlement mechanisms to help ensure that
the Corporation will not be cheated, and that help it carry out
business in a level playing field. In many cases, the Corporation
has received preferential tax treatment to locate plants in a
particular location to assist local economy.

I would argue that it is very much the responsibility of Corporations
to "give a real damn for their country".

Unfortunately, outsourcing has totally invalidated this ideal.

In my opinion the whole picture ID thing is feel-good lawmaking
that will cost more money and inconvenience in order to provide
an illusion of greater security.

You're absolutely wrong. It won't provide even an illusion of
greater security.


Yes, but the next time some girl in a bar asks to see my pilot's
license, maybe they'll believe it's real.

A) I don't believe that's ever happened, and

B) why would your picture make any difference, and

C) see "A" above.

C Kingsbury wrote:

Yes, but the next time some girl in a bar asks to see my pilot's license,
maybe they'll believe it's real.

Hell, nobody has *ever* asked to see mine, girl or not, bar or elsewhere.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

So how is the logic awry? If corporations are made up of citizens like
you
and me, is it not a responsibility of those citizens to "give a real damn
for their country", given all that the country provides to the
corporation????

Of course!

But it is the PEOPLE who do this, not "the corporation" -- which is simply
an aggregate of the whole.

Demonizing corporations is popular, but terribly silly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Hell, nobody has *ever* asked to see mine, girl or not, bar or elsewhere.

Actually, I was asked for my pilot certificate. In the consulate at the
Dominican Republic where I was applying for a new US passport after my old one
"disappeared" from my pocket. It was in fact one of the most convicing pieces
of evidence that I was me - more so than the photo IDs, driver license, and
other junk I carry. Ironically, it was probalby because it was an old paper
certificate with nothing special about it - I mean who would bother to forge
that?

Jose


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Hell, nobody has *ever* asked to see mine, girl or not, bar or elsewhere.

The only person who's ever asked to see my certificate was an FAA guy when I
got ramp checked...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Hell, nobody has *ever* asked to see mine, girl or not, bar or
elsewhere.

The only person who's ever asked to see my certificate was an FAA guy when
I
got ramp checked...
--
Jay Honeck

So.... Did you get a date, or get to take him home, afterwards?

g-sorry!
--
Jim in NC


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So.... Did you get a date, or get to take him home, afterwards?

Actually, he seemed to be more interested in Mary, and the plane...in that
order!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

That's nonsense. Have you done any research at all into what Kerry's
positions are on these things? Have you read his web site? His position
on Iraq is and has always been crystal clear.

Really?

Please, sir, sum that up for us, as I have to date been unable to find a
common, consistent thread in Mr. Kerry's position(s).
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"