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Old February 27th 05, 04:40 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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When did that get ammended?


I don't recall.



I know when I first got my license it quite definitely did NOT allow a
digital
presentation,


I didn't realize the digital clock had been around that long.


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Old February 27th 05, 05:42 PM
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Steven,

I didn't realize the digital clock had been around that long.


If you like, rent the James bond movie "Live and Let Die" one of these
days. It has a scene where James (roger Moore) post-coitally (I think)
and very proudly presents his Seiko digital with glowing red LEDs to
the camera. Looks incredibly cheap these days. That movie is from 1972
- over 30 years.

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Old February 27th 05, 06:51 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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If you like, rent the James bond movie "Live and Let Die" one of these
days. It has a scene where James (roger Moore) post-coitally (I think)
and very proudly presents his Seiko digital with glowing red LEDs to
the camera. Looks incredibly cheap these days. That movie is from 1972
- over 30 years.


I didn't say the digital clock hadn't been around a long time, I said I
didn't realize it had been around as long as Paul has had a license.


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Old February 27th 05, 07:13 PM
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In a previous article, "Steven P. McNicoll" said:
"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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I know when I first got my license it quite definitely did NOT allow a
digital presentation,


I didn't realize the digital clock had been around that long.


Huh? Ok, I'm confused. I haven't had my license all that long, only 10
years or so[1]. At that time, digital clocks were quite common, but we
had to keep repairing those stupid analog clocks in the planes rather than
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.

[1] I *started* working on my license 30 years ago (by joining the Royal
Canadian Air Cadets when I was 13), but quit the Air Cadets after a year
or two because of the preponderance of little Hitlers[2] and because in
all that time I got one short ride in a glider and 20 minutes in a C-172,
and put my dreams on hold until I could afford to do it out of my own
pocket.

[2] Interestingly enough, the Army Reserve had far fewer of these jerks
who think they're God because they've got one more stripe than you.


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Old February 27th 05, 07:15 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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Huh? Ok, I'm confused. I haven't had my license all that long, only 10
years or so[1]. At that time, digital clocks were quite common, but we
had to keep repairing those stupid analog clocks in the planes rather than
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.

[1] I *started* working on my license 30 years ago (by joining the Royal
Canadian Air Cadets when I was 13), but quit the Air Cadets after a year
or two because of the preponderance of little Hitlers[2] and because in
all that time I got one short ride in a glider and 20 minutes in a C-172,
and put my dreams on hold until I could afford to do it out of my own
pocket.

[2] Interestingly enough, the Army Reserve had far fewer of these jerks
who think they're God because they've got one more stripe than you.


Sorry. My mistake. I got the impression you were much older.


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Old February 27th 05, 07:20 PM
Roy Smith
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(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
Huh? Ok, I'm confused. I haven't had my license all that long, only 10
years or so[1]. At that time, digital clocks were quite common, but we
had to keep repairing those stupid analog clocks in the planes rather than
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.


Part of the issue is that your Westbend/RadioShack/etc timer isn't
installed in the airplane, so it doesn't count. What made the clock in the
panel magic was not that it had a second hand, but that it was mounted in
the panel.
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Old February 27th 05, 07:24 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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Part of the issue is that your Westbend/RadioShack/etc timer isn't
installed in the airplane, so it doesn't count. What made the clock in
the
panel magic was not that it had a second hand, but that it was mounted in
the panel.


So what? Where is it written that only the clock installed in the airplane
can be used for IFR operations?


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Old February 27th 05, 09:06 PM
Paul Tomblin
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In a previous article, Roy Smith said:
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
just sticking on a digital timer. I thought that was because of 91.205,
but on second thought it might just be because the analog clock is listed
in the POH as equipment it was certificated with.


Part of the issue is that your Westbend/RadioShack/etc timer isn't
installed in the airplane, so it doesn't count. What made the clock in the
panel magic was not that it had a second hand, but that it was mounted in
the panel.


Hmmm. Does anybody make a digital clock that's TSO'ed to replace a Piper
analog clock?

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their system has a /dev/null already.
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Old February 28th 05, 01:23 AM
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC), (Paul
Tomblin) wrote:

Hmmm. Does anybody make a digital clock that's TSO'ed to replace a Piper
analog clock?


Dunno about Piper, but I got a replacement digital clock for the yoke mount
in my 1965 M20E to replace the 7-day windup analog original. Can't recall
the brand -- it might have been Davtron.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old February 28th 05, 01:39 AM
Roy Smith
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
Dunno about Piper, but I got a replacement digital clock for the yoke mount
in my 1965 M20E to replace the 7-day windup analog original.\


Almost certainly an 8-day windup. That was standard for the genre. The
idea was you picked a set weekly schedule to wind it (i.e. every Monday
morning), and it never got down below 1 day's worth of winding left.
 




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