Greatest Number of Traps

snort, aye. In 18 years spent on the care and feeding of Naval
Aviators [green variety] and their steeds.....

Very insightful post, OJ, but waaaay back in the oooold days, both
Navy and Marine pilots wore green.

Although I wore the more attractive shade of green, I thought the Navy
greens were damn good-looking, too. I gather a lot of Navy guys were
unhappy when they were phased out.

vince norris

" Although I wore the more attractive shade of green, I thought
the Navy
greens were damn good-looking, too. I gather a lot of Navy
guys were
unhappy when they were phased out.

That and the brown shoes.

Leanne

"vincent p. norris" wrote in message
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snort, aye. In 18 years spent on the care and feeding of Naval
Aviators [green variety] and their steeds.....

Very insightful post, OJ, but waaaay back in the oooold days, both
Navy and Marine pilots wore green.

Although I wore the more attractive shade of green, I thought the Navy
greens were damn good-looking, too. I gather a lot of Navy guys were
unhappy when they were phased out.

vince norris

I wore Aviation Greens all the way up until 1998 when I retrired. I thought
they were still in the seabag today.

I wore Aviation Greens all the way up until 1998 when I retrired. I
thought
they were still in the seabag today.

They were the best! I wore greens at my retirement ceremony.

Tom Clarke
CDR USN(Ret)
Herk Driver, but I did get 15 traps in the T-28 and S-2
back in the day when all Naval Aviators hit the boat during flight training.
The good old daze!

vincent p. norris wrote:

snort, aye. In 18 years spent on the care and feeding of Naval
Aviators [green variety] and their steeds.....

Very insightful post, OJ, but waaaay back in the oooold days, both
Navy and Marine pilots wore green.

Although I wore the more attractive shade of green, I thought the Navy
greens were damn good-looking, too. I gather a lot of Navy guys were
unhappy when they were phased out.

Why did you assume I was speaking uniforms, with that "green"?

While "blue" dollars pay for a lot of the USMC aviation toys, our
NAs/NFOs are *paid* with "green" dollars.

[Does anybody in the US military still get paid with checks [much
less {gasp!!!!!!} cash] nowadays, or has DoD gone mandatory
direct deposit? Saw on a recent cable show on carriers that all
their crew's cash comes out of an ATM.]
--
OJ III
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On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:44:13 -0500, Ogden Johnson III
wrote:

snipped for brevity

[Does anybody in the US military still get paid with checks [much
less {gasp!!!!!!} cash] nowadays, or has DoD gone mandatory
direct deposit? Saw on a recent cable show on carriers that all
their crew's cash comes out of an ATM.]

Can't answer directly or for all, but my son is at Camp Caldwell in
Iraq as part of the 278th RCT (TN National Guard). He was required to
execute a direct deposit form when he was activated. I have his POA
and am taking care of his affairs while he is gone; twice a month I
get the notice of direct deposit. He draws his "walking around" money
from an ATM.

While he was drilling he told me that he was requried to have an
account for payment of his monthly drill and AT pay.

The Days of Cash appear to be just a memory! ;-)

Bill Kambic

"Ogden Johnson III" wrote in message
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vincent p. norris wrote:

snort, aye. In 18 years spent on the care and feeding of Naval
Aviators [green variety] and their steeds.....

Very insightful post, OJ, but waaaay back in the oooold days, both
Navy and Marine pilots wore green.

Although I wore the more attractive shade of green, I thought the Navy
greens were damn good-looking, too. I gather a lot of Navy guys were
unhappy when they were phased out.

Why did you assume I was speaking uniforms, with that "green"?

Gee, I guess when you talk 'in riddles' maybe your intended meaning can get
lost.






While "blue" dollars pay for a lot of the USMC aviation toys, our
NAs/NFOs are *paid* with "green" dollars.

[Does anybody in the US military still get paid with checks [much
less {gasp!!!!!!} cash] nowadays, or has DoD gone mandatory
direct deposit? Saw on a recent cable show on carriers that all
their crew's cash comes out of an ATM.]
--
OJ III
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Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

In article ,
Ogden Johnson III writes:

[Does anybody in the US military still get paid with checks [much
less {gasp!!!!!!} cash] nowadays, or has DoD gone mandatory
direct deposit? Saw on a recent cable show on carriers that all
their crew's cash comes out of an ATM.]

Funny that you should bring that up... I've just been working on a
piece of that, actually. It's more than just ATMs - Some ships are
part of NavyCash, which reduces the demand for hard money by
substituting programmable "Smart Cards" for geedunks & stamps & Mess
Dues and such. You can transfer funds from your Ship's Account, using
something like an ATM, and use the card in the Coke Machines & such.
The accounting for the DISBOs is a lot easier, and so are the
logistics. It seems that when they empty the cash boxes in the Coke
Machines every month, they're hauling about 1,000# of quarters around
the ship. (For a CV or LPH-sized ship). So, anyway, the effort is
there to eliminate hard cash on ships. (The cards can also be used as
Debit Cards ashore).

--
Pete Stickney

Without data, all you have are opinions

"Peter Stickney" wrote in message
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In article ,
Ogden Johnson III writes:

[Does anybody in the US military still get paid with checks [much
less {gasp!!!!!!} cash] nowadays, or has DoD gone mandatory
direct deposit? Saw on a recent cable show on carriers that all
their crew's cash comes out of an ATM.]

Funny that you should bring that up... I've just been working on a
piece of that, actually. It's more than just ATMs - Some ships are
part of NavyCash, which reduces the demand for hard money by
substituting programmable "Smart Cards" for geedunks & stamps & Mess
Dues and such. You can transfer funds from your Ship's Account, using
something like an ATM, and use the card in the Coke Machines & such.
The accounting for the DISBOs is a lot easier, and so are the
logistics. It seems that when they empty the cash boxes in the Coke
Machines every month, they're hauling about 1,000# of quarters around
the ship. (For a CV or LPH-sized ship). So, anyway, the effort is
there to eliminate hard cash on ships. (The cards can also be used as
Debit Cards ashore).

--
Pete Stickney

Without data, all you have are opinions

Is there anyone (other than Vincent P. Norris) that remembers being paid in
cash every other Friday?

As far as the greatest number of traps, I wonder who had the most combat
traps? For the life of me (getting old I guess) I can't remember the name of
the A-4 jock from Vietnam era who had something like 750 "green ink" entries
in his log book. Heck I think he retired as an admiral too.

Red Rider

"Red Rider" wrote:

"Peter Stickney" wrote:

Ogden Johnson III writes:

[Does anybody in the US military still get paid with checks [much
less {gasp!!!!!!} cash] nowadays, or has DoD gone mandatory
direct deposit? Saw on a recent cable show on carriers that all
their crew's cash comes out of an ATM.]

[Snip Peter's informative stuff on "NavyCash". Now that you
mentioned that, I think that's what they were showing on that
cable show - in addition to the presence of ATMs (presumably
necessary to get "RealCash" to change into local currency for
liberty during port calls. ;-) Thanks for the info, Peter.]

Is there anyone (other than Vincent P. Norris) that remembers being paid in
cash every other Friday?

Went the whole gamut, save once-a-month cash pay days, from
1st/15th of the month [or 5th/20th, it varied depending on base]
cash pay days, to the same days but checks, to another mix
between the 1/15 (or 5/20) checks and every other week checks.
Which, when instituted, got a lot of complaints that "they
reduced my pay" from people who couldn't figure out that pay
divided into 24 paydays a year might be somewhat less, in
individual increments, when the same pay is split between 26 pay
days a year. Sigh.

Some of the doggies from my HS days who were drafted when I
enlisted were still paid under the old Army "once a month"
scheme. AFAIK, the Naval Service had gone semi-monthly totally
by that time [1961]. At least that was my experience.
--
OJ III
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