Things to put in the "remarks" section of the flight plan

Controllers make mistakes. If a controller gives a flight priority handling
based on an Angel Flight call sign he is acting contrary to FAA Order
7110.65.

What if a controller gives priority when there is no other reason to -
for example (you can make a better one up) two planes approaching the
same waypoint at the same time. One is given vectors for delay. Would
giving the delay vectors to the non-angel flight aircraft be a viloation
of 7110.65?

Jose
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What if a controller gives priority when there is no other reason to - for
example (you can make a better one up) two planes approaching the same
waypoint at the same time. One is given vectors for delay. Would giving
the delay vectors to the non-angel flight aircraft be a viloation of
7110.65?


No, as Angel Flight is not mentioned in FAA Order 7110.65.

No, as Angel Flight is not mentioned in FAA Order 7110.65.

Then on what basis to you make the following statement? And on that
same basis, how do you answer my subsequent question relating to
otherwise equal consideration?

If a controller gives a flight priority handling
based on an Angel Flight call sign he is acting contrary to FAA Order
7110.65.

Jose
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"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain."
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Then on what basis to you make the following statement?


Same basis as usual, simple logic.

FAA Order 7110.65 requires controllers to provide services on a "first come,
first served" basis, as circumstances permit, except for a few exceptions
where certain operators are given priority over others. Angel Flight is NOT
one of those exceptions. So if a controller gives a flight priority
handling based on an Angel Flight call sign he is acting contrary to FAA
Order
7110.65.



And on that
same basis, how do you answer my subsequent question relating to otherwise
equal consideration?


If two otherwise equal aircraft are a dead ass tie, that is, same speed,
same time over a fix, similar distances to go to their destinations, no
other aircraft to be concerned about, etc., etc., etc., then at least one of
them must be turned or it's altitude changed to ensure separation. If
neither of them is afforded operational priority by FAAO 7110.65 the
decision of which to move is completely arbitrary. It could be decided by a
coin toss. If one of the aircraft in that situation is an Angel Flight, I'd
move the other one and leave the coin in my pocket.

That's not the same as affording an aircraft, such as a Lifeguard,
operational priority over other aircraft. We don't use the "first come,
first served" rule with a Lifeguard or other aircraft that are afforded
operational priority. For example, if another aircraft is naturally ahead
of a Lifeguard for an IAP but it's approach would delay the Lifeguard, the
other aircraft is moved and the Lifeguard goes first.

Thanks Steven, that explains it to me.

Getting ahead in a dead ass tie is worth something, maybe worth
something in the remarks section. Are there many dead ass ties in your
sector?

Jose
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it keeps its brain."
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Thanks Steven, that explains it to me.

Getting ahead in a dead ass tie is worth something, maybe worth something
in the remarks section.

Angel Flight is properly designated by filing and use of the Angel Flight
call sign.



Are there many dead ass ties in your sector?


Hell no, there aren't that many airplanes in my sector.