Things to put in the "remarks" section of the flight plan

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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What is the purpose of the special call sign that Angel Flights use to
distinguish themselves?

According to Angel Flight West the call sign "indicates to ATC the
'...need for appropriate (but not priority) handling by ATC'."

According to an Air Traffic Bulletin issued six years ago use of the call
sign identifies the flight as a non-profit, charitable, community service
involving no priority handling, but minimal delay would be appreciated.

Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC? In ordinary language,
minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for ordinary flights) would be a
form of priority (though perhaps not as high as the priority afforded to
some other flights).

--Gary

"Will Rogers" wrote:
Seems like these days the most common not-particularly-useful-to-ATC
remarks I see a

None

followed closely by:

PIC Joe Shmoe, 555-678-1212

DUAT will put the pilot's name in the remarks if you don't tell it not to.

I have often had evidence that controllers are ignoring the remarks. A
common example is being asked my on-course heading by Departure when I filed
it in "remarks."
--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

"Jose" wrote in message
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What if a controller gives priority when there is no other reason to - for
example (you can make a better one up) two planes approaching the same
waypoint at the same time. One is given vectors for delay. Would giving
the delay vectors to the non-angel flight aircraft be a viloation of
7110.65?


No, as Angel Flight is not mentioned in FAA Order 7110.65.

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC?


Yes.

http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/ATC/Chp2/atc0201.html#2-1-4



In ordinary language, minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for
ordinary flights) would be a form of priority (though perhaps not as high
as the priority afforded to some other flights).


If two aircraft are a dead ass tie and one of them is an Angel Flight,
everything else being equal, I'd put the Angel Flight ahead of the other
one.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote in message
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Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC?

Yes.

http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/ATC/Chp2/atc0201.html#2-1-4

Thanks, good to know.

Dan Luke wrote:
"Will Rogers" wrote:

Seems like these days the most common not-particularly-useful-to-ATC
remarks I see a

None

followed closely by:

PIC Joe Shmoe, 555-678-1212


DUAT will put the pilot's name in the remarks if you don't tell it not to.

Huh? It will always put the ACCOUNT HOLDERS name in the PIC block no
matter what you enter. Does it really enter stuff serrupticiously
in the remarks field?

No, as Angel Flight is not mentioned in FAA Order 7110.65.

Then on what basis to you make the following statement? And on that
same basis, how do you answer my subsequent question relating to
otherwise equal consideration?

If a controller gives a flight priority handling
based on an Angel Flight call sign he is acting contrary to FAA Order
7110.65.

Jose
--
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it keeps its brain."
(chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
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"Ron Natalie" wrote:
Huh? It will always put the ACCOUNT HOLDERS name in the PIC block no
matter what you enter. Does it really enter stuff serrupticiously
in the remarks field?

Yep, if you don't tell it not to when you're setting up the defaults for your
account.
--
Dan
C-172RG at BFM

Gary Drescher wrote:


Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC? In ordinary language,
minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for ordinary flights) would be a
form of priority (though perhaps not as high as the priority afforded to
some other flights).

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know what
it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use the
three letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:

Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC? In ordinary language,
minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for ordinary flights) would
be a form of priority (though perhaps not as high as the priority
afforded to some other flights).

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know what
it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use the three
letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?

Uh, I wouldn't. That's why I was asking specifically about the use of the
Angel Flight call sign (which is obviously supposed to mean something to
ATC--they don't think it's a type of airplane, do they?).

--Gary