Things to put in the "remarks" section of the flight plan

Gary Drescher wrote:


Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC? In ordinary language,
minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for ordinary flights) would be a
form of priority (though perhaps not as high as the priority afforded to
some other flights).

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know what
it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use the
three letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:

Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC? In ordinary language,
minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for ordinary flights) would
be a form of priority (though perhaps not as high as the priority
afforded to some other flights).

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know what
it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use the three
letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?

Uh, I wouldn't. That's why I was asking specifically about the use of the
Angel Flight call sign (which is obviously supposed to mean something to
ATC--they don't think it's a type of airplane, do they?).

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:

Oh, ok. Is 'priority' a technical term for ATC? In ordinary language,
minimizing delays (to a greater extent than for ordinary flights) would
be a form of priority (though perhaps not as high as the priority
afforded to some other flights).

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know what
it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use the three
letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?


Uh, I wouldn't. That's why I was asking specifically about the use of the
Angel Flight call sign (which is obviously supposed to mean something to
ATC--they don't think it's a type of airplane, do they?).


ATC would most likely ignore the remark Angel Flight. If you used the
three letter ID ATC would still ignore it other than having to look up
just what in the hell "NGF" stands for. There's a gazillion three
letter ID's that the FAA has authorized, some sound similar to angel
flight. ATC will see it as just another name.

"Newps" wrote in message
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If you used the three letter ID ATC would still ignore it other than
having to look up just what in the hell "NGF" stands for. There's a
gazillion three letter ID's that the FAA has authorized, some sound
similar to angel flight. ATC will see it as just another name.

We're told to say "Angel Flight 123", not "November Golf Foxtrot 123". Is
that not what ATC expects to hear?

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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If you used the three letter ID ATC would still ignore it other than
having to look up just what in the hell "NGF" stands for. There's a
gazillion three letter ID's that the FAA has authorized, some sound
similar to angel flight. ATC will see it as just another name.


We're told to say "Angel Flight 123", not "November Golf Foxtrot 123". Is
that not what ATC expects to hear?

Yes.

Newps wrote:

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know what
it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use the
three letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?

Angel Flight Mid Atlantic instructs its pilots to use the Angel Flight call sign
and file a flight plan (N1701D becomes NGF01D and the call sign is "Angel Flight
Zero One Delta) and to put the actual registration number into the remarks as
follows:

N1701D ANGEL FLIGHT MID ATLANTIC

I don't have any idea what, if anything, it means to ATC. I do it.

I think I may have been given some consideration in choice of altitudes for
example, because of the AF call sign. Can't prove it, though.

Dave

Dave Butler wrote in news:1119016948.514089@sj-nntpcache-3:

Newps wrote:

Angel Flight means nothing to ATC, most controllers don't even know
what it is. And why would you put it in the remarks and not just use
the three letter ID allocated to Angel Flight(NGF)?

Angel Flight Mid Atlantic instructs its pilots to use the Angel Flight
call sign and file a flight plan (N1701D becomes NGF01D and the call
sign is "Angel Flight Zero One Delta) and to put the actual
registration number into the remarks as follows:

N1701D ANGEL FLIGHT MID ATLANTIC

I don't have any idea what, if anything, it means to ATC. I do it.

I think I may have been given some consideration in choice of
altitudes for example, because of the AF call sign. Can't prove it,
though.

Dave


Many times I've received flight following with the Angel Flight call
sign while everyone else was being told "unable".

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Silicon Rallye Inc.

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