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Old August 16th 05, 03:47 PM
Peter R.
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Ben Hallert wrote:

"Cessna 1234 Foxtrot, taxi to and HOLD short of two one."

Our intrepid pilot, for one reason or another, mistakes this for
position and hold, not hold short of. Another thread regarding to use
of 'Wilco' instead of readbacks rears its ugly head, or the tower
mishears the Cessna's readback, or the readback is ambiguous: "Santa
Monica Tower, Cessna 1234 Foxtrot holding two one."


While I realize that it is a requirement for pilots to read back all hold
short instructions, the controllers at the Class C airport where I am based
are very good about ensuring that pilots read back the hold short
instruction exactly as they heard it.

If there is any apparent confusion or ambiguous wording by the pilot, the
ground or tower controller will continue to repeat the instruction, along
with addition choice words ("I NEED you to repeat the hold short
instruction exactly as I worded it.") until the pilot gets it right.

On a related note, I have to admit that just recently I mistakenly used a
"wilco" in response to Boston Logan tower's instruction to "position and
hold." The tower controller very calmly repeated the instruction and
hinted that he was expecting a full readback (I cannot remember exactly how
he hinted it, but whatever he did worked).

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Peter
























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