A title problem, but I want to buy. How handle?

The FAA does not keep title for aircraft. They only register them. Are
you just saying the current owner never changed the registration or are
you saying that someone has a lean against the plane?
An aircraft registration is NOT the same thing as a certified title of
a car from DMV. The FAA does not establish ownership (and it says so
quite clearly on the reg app).

-Robert

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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The FAA does not keep title for aircraft. They only register them. Are
you just saying the current owner never changed the registration or are
you saying that someone has a lean against the plane?
An aircraft registration is NOT the same thing as a certified title of
a car from DMV. The FAA does not establish ownership (and it says so
quite clearly on the reg app).

-Robert

Yes, it does. By refusing to process a registration that does not meet their
requirements, they are essentially doing the same thing.

No, they do not establish ownership. There is no title on an aircraft,
no pink sheet, no title to sign over. You can put any name on the
registration you want. You cannot sue to change a registration, etc.

By refusing to process a registration application and bill of sale they
essentially do the same. Try to convince a finance company the airplane is
yours and they should give you money against it when you can't put your name
on the registration. And try to get a registration change from an estate
without a legal document saying the people signing are the estate executors,
for example. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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No, they do not establish ownership. There is no title on an aircraft,
no pink sheet, no title to sign over. You can put any name on the
registration you want. You cannot sue to change a registration, etc.

Under what situation will they refuse to handle the change of
registration? I've never heard of this before. I've bought airplanes
from people who have never been on the registration before, the FAA
doesn't care.

-Robert

If an airplane is owned by a person who dies and the registration is changed
to the estate of the deceased based on a court order, the only way the
registration can be changed when the aircraft is sold is if the legal
executors of the estate sign the bill of sale -- all of them if there are
more than one. I know this first hand because a man who is being sentenced
this week in Arizona tried to steal an aircraft this way. He kept the money
and then tried to do a change of registration with only one of the estate
executors' signatures. Then he tried it again, this time signing it himself.
Both times the FAA refused to process the change of ownership. They most
certainly do care.

Juan

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Under what situation will they refuse to handle the change of
registration? I've never heard of this before. I've bought airplanes
from people who have never been on the registration before, the FAA
doesn't care.

-Robert