Approach plates on pocket PC?

cwk wrote:
Nice situational awareness gizmo. Primary navigation tool? No way.

OK, I can agree with that. Thanks for the post. That includes a GPS etc.
I find it highly 'optimistic' that pilot would use a Pocket PC's instrument
chart in flight as their primary which is what most pilot tend to say; e.g.
"I don't always have my paper charts", or "This is cheaper", etc...

Hilton

In article ,
"Hilton" wrote:
Nice situational awareness gizmo. Primary navigation tool? No way.

OK, I can agree with that. Thanks for the post. That includes a GPS etc.
I find it highly 'optimistic' that pilot would use a Pocket PC's instrument
chart in flight as their primary which is what most pilot tend to say; e.g.
"I don't always have my paper charts", or "This is cheaper", etc...


With PocketPlates and the Seattle Avionics products, you can print the
plates for your destination and alternates as part of your pre-flight
planning. If you find yourself in a pinch during the flight, you can
always pull the information off of the plate on the PocketPC. Printed
or not, I certainly don't stare at the plate during the approach--I pull
off the important information and focus on flying the airplane.



JKG

Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article ,
"Hilton" wrote:
Nice situational awareness gizmo. Primary navigation tool? No way.

OK, I can agree with that. Thanks for the post. That includes a GPS etc.
I find it highly 'optimistic' that pilot would use a Pocket PC's instrument
chart in flight as their primary which is what most pilot tend to say; e.g.
"I don't always have my paper charts", or "This is cheaper", etc...

With PocketPlates and the Seattle Avionics products, you can print the
plates for your destination and alternates as part of your pre-flight
planning.

Considering that most people lose more money in their couch every 56
days than it costs for a set of NACO plates, I keep a complete set in
my bag no matter what. Cheap insurance I think.

-cwk.

In a previous article, said:
Considering that most people lose more money in their couch every 56
days than it costs for a set of NACO plates, I keep a complete set in
my bag no matter what. Cheap insurance I think.

You lose $4 x 24 books = $96 every 56 days? I think you need to invest in
better pockets.


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On 9/10/2005 11:44 AM, wrote the following:
Jonathan Goodish wrote:

In article ,
"Hilton" wrote:

Nice situational awareness gizmo. Primary navigation tool? No way.

OK, I can agree with that. Thanks for the post. That includes a GPS etc.
I find it highly 'optimistic' that pilot would use a Pocket PC's instrument
chart in flight as their primary which is what most pilot tend to say; e.g.
"I don't always have my paper charts", or "This is cheaper", etc...

With PocketPlates and the Seattle Avionics products, you can print the
plates for your destination and alternates as part of your pre-flight
planning.


Considering that most people lose more money in their couch every 56
days than it costs for a set of NACO plates, I keep a complete set in
my bag no matter what. Cheap insurance I think.

I print the Seattle Avionics plates for places I might end up, but carry a set
of Air Chart Systems plates (quite cheap, sent once a year plus monthly update
bulletins) as backup. You can print the SA plates on nice strong paper, punch
them or not as you like, mangle them, write on them, lose them, and then just
print fresh next time you need the plate.

I also have defined a "plate pack" of about 20 plates named "metro practice
approaches" that I just print every time I'm headed out for practice. No
messing with the books or mangling my only (tissue paper) copy of a plate. Very
convenient.

In article .com,
wrote:
With PocketPlates and the Seattle Avionics products, you can print the
plates for your destination and alternates as part of your pre-flight
planning.

Considering that most people lose more money in their couch every 56
days than it costs for a set of NACO plates, I keep a complete set in
my bag no matter what. Cheap insurance I think.


That's not the point of having charts stored electronically. It would
be quite expensive and cumbersome to have the chart books for the entire
United States along with you on every flight.



JKG

Hilton wrote:

I find it highly 'optimistic' that pilot would use a Pocket PC's
instrument chart in flight as their primary which is what most pilot tend
to say; e.g. "I don't always have my paper charts", or "This is cheaper",
etc...

With what are you comparing the use of a palmtop for plate display in your
determination that it is unsafe? A complete lack of plates? Or having all
the necessary paper plates?

Even if the latter, why do you view the palmtop as less safe? Size of the
display? Reliability of the device? Something else?

What would the electronic device need to be/do/have/etc. for you to consider
it at least equally safe as paper?

- Andrew

Andrew wrote:
Hilton wrote:

I find it highly 'optimistic' that pilot would use a Pocket PC's
instrument chart in flight as their primary which is what most pilot
tend
to say; e.g. "I don't always have my paper charts", or "This is
cheaper",
etc...

With what are you comparing the use of a palmtop for plate display in your
determination that it is unsafe? A complete lack of plates? Or having
all
the necessary paper plates?

Even if the latter, why do you view the palmtop as less safe? Size of the
display? Reliability of the device? Something else?

What would the electronic device need to be/do/have/etc. for you to
consider
it at least equally safe as paper?

I just want to be able to see all the information clearly - simple as that.
During an approach, you're looking at the top for the frequencies, at the
bottom for the minimums and missed instructions, also looking at the chart
for step downs, intersections, VOR frequencies, radials etc etc etc.
Basically, I believe that during an approach, a pilot is referencing the
*entire* plate and I have to assume that the added task of scrolling on a
small device while in IMC on an approach is adding an unnecessary
task/distraction.

Hilton

Hilton wrote:

I just want to be able to see all the information clearly - simple as
that.

So it's the display size and quality, yes?

- Andrew

Andrew wrote:
Hilton wrote:

I just want to be able to see all the information clearly - simple as
that.

So it's the display size and quality, yes?

Yes, my primary concern is the display size and quality. Not so much the
size per se, but the fact that the pilot cannot see all the information at
once, quckly, without scrolling.

Hilton