Bullets raining from the sky (long)

AR or Ruger?


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James H. Macklin
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wrote in message
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|I see no problem with this... I live in Boise Idaho, and
there is a lot
| of wide open land around here. Ranchers flying over their
own ranges
| in powered parachutes popping coyotes is not a big deal.
You can fly a
| powered parachute hands off by leaning your body anyway...
that leaves
| two hands free to aim your 0.223 (favorite ranch rifle)
|
| PETA folks can whine all they want...
|

More likely the Ruger Jim. The Mini14 is often refered to as "the
ranch rifle".

The Monk

Jim Macklin wrote:
AR or Ruger?


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


wrote in message
oups.com...
|I see no problem with this... I live in Boise Idaho, and
there is a lot
| of wide open land around here. Ranchers flying over their
own ranges
| in powered parachutes popping coyotes is not a big deal.
You can fly a
| powered parachute hands off by leaning your body anyway...
that leaves
| two hands free to aim your 0.223 (favorite ranch rifle)
|
| PETA folks can whine all they want...
|

Actually the "Ranch Rifle" was a particular model of the Mini-14. It
basically was a Mini-14 that was modified by the factory for use with a
scope. Came out is the early '80s I think.


"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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More likely the Ruger Jim. The Mini14 is often refered to as "the
ranch rifle".

The Monk

You see a lot of Ruger Mini-14 types on TV, they appeared on
the A-Team because they cost half the price of a Colt AR 15.
Ruger P85 pistols also appear in many TV shows because they
cost less.

Ruger builds good guns, too bad Bill Ruger folded on the
magazine capacity bs, they quit selling 20 round Mini-14
magazines to civilians [they were in the price list at $8
back in the days] and Bill Ruger Sr. said "ban overt 15
rounds" and that acceptance "proved" that some number of
bullets in a magazine was evil, so they passed the 10 round
ban.

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
| Actually the "Ranch Rifle" was a particular model of the
Mini-14. It
| basically was a Mini-14 that was modified by the factory
for use with a
| scope. Came out is the early '80s I think.
|
|
| "Flyingmonk" wrote in message
|
oups.com...
| More likely the Ruger Jim. The Mini14 is often refered
to as "the
| ranch rifle".
|
| The Monk
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:bDP3g.10242$ZW3.6399@dukeread04...
Ruger builds good guns, too bad Bill Ruger folded on the
magazine capacity bs, they quit selling 20 round Mini-14
magazines to civilians [they were in the price list at $8
back in the days] and Bill Ruger Sr. said "ban overt 15
rounds" and that acceptance "proved" that some number of
bullets in a magazine was evil, so they passed the 10 round
ban.

I've got a few 30-round mags for my Mini-14... Never know when one might
have the BATF/FBI knocking at one's door because they don't like your
religion or whatever... It happened in Waco, it can happen elsewhere...

I bought a Mini 14 back in 1976 [stamped on the side."Made
in the 200th year of American Freedom" Ruger actually sold
20 round magazines for $8. I gave that rifle to my eldest
son after he turned 21 or so. He has all those very
reliable Ruger mags. Also had some after-market 20 and 30
round mags, but they did have some feeding problems.

If I ever again have the money to buy guns again, there are
several 223 and 30 Russian rifles that are on my list.

Waco was a tragedy, it looked like the BATF was making a
COPS show with all the troops in the camera. It wasn't a
well planned raid if the Davidians were expected to be
dangerous. And if they weren't dangerous, why the raid? I
think they wanted a movie to show Congress why they needed
more money. After the BATF started the shooting, they had
to kill as many as possible and burn the evidence. Would
have been better if they had just let the Sheriff or Rangers
walk in and if Koresh was a child molester, try him for
that. But Janet Reno had her tanks.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Grumman-581" wrote
in message ...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:bDP3g.10242$ZW3.6399@dukeread04...
| Ruger builds good guns, too bad Bill Ruger folded on the
| magazine capacity bs, they quit selling 20 round Mini-14
| magazines to civilians [they were in the price list at
$8
| back in the days] and Bill Ruger Sr. said "ban overt 15
| rounds" and that acceptance "proved" that some number of
| bullets in a magazine was evil, so they passed the 10
round
| ban.
|
| I've got a few 30-round mags for my Mini-14... Never know
when one might
| have the BATF/FBI knocking at one's door because they
don't like your
| religion or whatever... It happened in Waco, it can happen
elsewhere...
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:cYZ3g.10297$ZW3.1757@dukeread04...
Waco was a tragedy, it looked like the BATF was making a
COPS show with all the troops in the camera. It wasn't a
well planned raid if the Davidians were expected to be
dangerous. And if they weren't dangerous, why the raid? I
think they wanted a movie to show Congress why they needed
more money. After the BATF started the shooting, they had
to kill as many as possible and burn the evidence. Would
have been better if they had just let the Sheriff or Rangers
walk in and if Koresh was a child molester, try him for
that. But Janet Reno had her tanks.

Yeah, they could have had the local Sheriff arrest him while he was out
jogging in the morning, but noooooo, they had to provoke a confrontational
situation... Let's see... You got a group of people who believe that the
world is going to end and be taken over by some sort of ultra-repressive
government... Well, why don't we all dress up in black clothes and attack
them... Hell, they'll give up, right? snicker Yeah, Koresh was a kook,
but so are many of the religious fanatics... As religious kooks went, he was
actually one of the more harmless ones...

I bought a Ruger "77" in 220 Swift that same year, with the same
inscription.

Karl
It has been in my Cessna for the news group cops!


"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:cYZ3g.10297$ZW3.1757@dukeread04...
I bought a Mini 14 back in 1976 [stamped on the side."Made
in the 200th year of American Freedom" Ruger actually sold
20 round magazines for $8. I gave that rifle to my eldest
son after he turned 21 or so. He has all those very
reliable Ruger mags. Also had some after-market 20 and 30
round mags, but they did have some feeding problems.

If I ever again have the money to buy guns again, there are
several 223 and 30 Russian rifles that are on my list.

Waco was a tragedy, it looked like the BATF was making a
COPS show with all the troops in the camera. It wasn't a
well planned raid if the Davidians were expected to be
dangerous. And if they weren't dangerous, why the raid? I
think they wanted a movie to show Congress why they needed
more money. After the BATF started the shooting, they had
to kill as many as possible and burn the evidence. Would
have been better if they had just let the Sheriff or Rangers
walk in and if Koresh was a child molester, try him for
that. But Janet Reno had her tanks.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Grumman-581" wrote
in message ...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| news:bDP3g.10242$ZW3.6399@dukeread04...
| Ruger builds good guns, too bad Bill Ruger folded on the
| magazine capacity bs, they quit selling 20 round Mini-14
| magazines to civilians [they were in the price list at
$8
| back in the days] and Bill Ruger Sr. said "ban overt 15
| rounds" and that acceptance "proved" that some number of
| bullets in a magazine was evil, so they passed the 10
round
| ban.
|
| I've got a few 30-round mags for my Mini-14... Never know
when one might
| have the BATF/FBI knocking at one's door because they
don't like your
| religion or whatever... It happened in Waco, it can happen
elsewhere...
|
|

Yes, I know, but the real ranchers call any gun they always
have on the tractor or in the truck their ranch rifle.
Often a Marlin 336 or Winchester 94. Oh, to have enough
money to buy a few hundred gins just so I could have the
perfect shooter for every situation.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
oups.com...
| More likely the Ruger Jim. The Mini14 is often refered to
as "the
| ranch rifle".
|
| The Monk
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| AR or Ruger?
|
|
| --
| James H. Macklin
| ATP,CFI,A&P
|
| --
| The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| some support
| http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
|
|
| wrote in message
|
oups.com...
| |I see no problem with this... I live in Boise Idaho,
and
| there is a lot
| | of wide open land around here. Ranchers flying over
their
| own ranges
| | in powered parachutes popping coyotes is not a big
deal.
| You can fly a
| | powered parachute hands off by leaning your body
anyway...
| that leaves
| | two hands free to aim your 0.223 (favorite ranch
rifle)
| |
| | PETA folks can whine all they want...
| |
|