Using automobile gas with ethanol

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:04:09 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:



Up here in Ontario, what used to be Co-Op , UPI, and at least one
other non-Sunoco supplier used 10% Ethanol.

Shell Premium has NO Ethanol, and according to shell, never will.

Yeah for now but Dalton has promised that we'll all be burning 10% by
2009. Now they need to build more ethanol plants to meet the
legislated need. Most of the corn will come from Michigan cuz it's so
much cheaper there.

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:58:04 GMT, (Drew
Dalgleish) wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:04:09 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:



Up here in Ontario, what used to be Co-Op , UPI, and at least one
other non-Sunoco supplier used 10% Ethanol.

Shell Premium has NO Ethanol, and according to shell, never will.

Yeah for now but Dalton has promised that we'll all be burning 10% by
2009. Now they need to build more ethanol plants to meet the
legislated need. Most of the corn will come from Michigan cuz it's so
much cheaper there.
Ethanol fuel is a crock anyway, particularly when made from corn, as
so much of the fertilizer required to get a good corn crop is
petroleum based. Ethanol is pretty much a wash when produced from
corn. Gotta use elephant grass, or other non-fertilizer intesive
biomass if ethanol is going to be ANY kind of a solution.
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On 27/4/06 4:55 pm, in article ,
"clare at snyder.on.ca" clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:58:04 GMT, (Drew
Dalgleish) wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:04:09 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:



Up here in Ontario, what used to be Co-Op , UPI, and at least one
other non-Sunoco supplier used 10% Ethanol.

Shell Premium has NO Ethanol, and according to shell, never will.

Yeah for now but Dalton has promised that we'll all be burning 10% by
2009. Now they need to build more ethanol plants to meet the
legislated need. Most of the corn will come from Michigan cuz it's so
much cheaper there.
Ethanol fuel is a crock anyway, particularly when made from corn, as
so much of the fertilizer required to get a good corn crop is
petroleum based. Ethanol is pretty much a wash when produced from
corn. Gotta use elephant grass, or other non-fertilizer intesive
biomass if ethanol is going to be ANY kind of a solution.
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Didn't Henry Ford propose running his vehicles on fuel (ethanol presumably)
produced from hemp plants?

On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:58:04 GMT, (Drew
Dalgleish) wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 17:04:09 -0400, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:



Up here in Ontario, what used to be Co-Op , UPI, and at least one
other non-Sunoco supplier used 10% Ethanol.

Shell Premium has NO Ethanol, and according to shell, never will.

Yeah for now but Dalton has promised that we'll all be burning 10% by
2009. Now they need to build more ethanol plants to meet the
legislated need. Most of the corn will come from Michigan cuz it's so
much cheaper there.

I thought Canada was going to be making the stuff from hemp which is
cheaper to grow and gives more alcohol than corn.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com