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Old August 6th 06, 02:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Newps wrote:


Jonathan Goodish wrote:


(though I think Ford has figured out how to build a quality truck)



Think? The F150 has been the best selling truck in this country for the
last 30 years running.


And Microsoft is the best selling OS. What has that to do with quality?

Matt
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Old August 6th 06, 02:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In article ,
Matt Whiting wrote:

Think? The F150 has been the best selling truck in this country for the
last 30 years running.


And Microsoft is the best selling OS. What has that to do with quality?


few people buy an F-150 because that's what they are forced to use
at work.

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Old August 6th 06, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Matt Whiting wrote:

Newps wrote:



Jonathan Goodish wrote:


(though I think Ford has figured out how to build a quality truck)




Think? The F150 has been the best selling truck in this country for
the last 30 years running.



And Microsoft is the best selling OS. What has that to do with quality?


Everything when there is competition. You don't buy Windows, you buy a
computer that has Windows.
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Old August 6th 06, 05:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Newps wrote in
:

Matt Whiting wrote:

And Microsoft is the best selling OS. What has that to do with quality?


Everything when there is competition. You don't buy Windows, you buy a
computer that has Windows.


Actually, several companies, including Dell and IBM, tried to market PCs with
Linux on them instead of Windows. OS/2 failed, not for quality. Even Apple
had to give in to the MS OS wars, with their new ads that indicate their new
Macs run Windows...

Microsoft has competition. They're just better marketers.


If it were just about the better mousetrap we'd all be rich.
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Old August 6th 06, 02:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Matt Whiting
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Judah wrote:

Newps wrote in
:


Matt Whiting wrote:


And Microsoft is the best selling OS. What has that to do with quality?


Everything when there is competition. You don't buy Windows, you buy a
computer that has Windows.



Actually, several companies, including Dell and IBM, tried to market PCs with
Linux on them instead of Windows. OS/2 failed, not for quality. Even Apple
had to give in to the MS OS wars, with their new ads that indicate their new
Macs run Windows...

Microsoft has competition. They're just better marketers.


Which was my point exactly. Newps doesn't understand that quality and
sales volume are often not correlated.

Matt
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Old August 7th 06, 12:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Matt Whiting wrote:




Which was my point exactly. Newps doesn't understand that quality and
sales volume are often not correlated.


Over the short term, yes, I agree with you. But 30 years? Sorry,
that's just crying in your beer. You don't fool people with an inferior
product for very long. And I include Windows in that list. I've tried
others. Overall I've got what I want.
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Old August 7th 06, 03:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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You don't fool people with an inferior product for very long.

Chevy Chevette.

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Old August 7th 06, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Newps
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Jose wrote:
You don't fool people with an inferior product for very long.



Chevy Chevette.


Exactly. How long did that last?

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Old August 7th 06, 12:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel
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In an article before ,
someone wrote:

You don't fool people with an inferior product for very long.


unless you have something else going for you (like an monopoly).

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Old August 6th 06, 04:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jonathan Goodish
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In article ,
Judah wrote:
Actually, several companies, including Dell and IBM, tried to market PCs with

Linux on them instead of Windows. OS/2 failed, not for quality. Even Apple
had to give in to the MS OS wars, with their new ads that indicate their new
Macs run Windows...

Microsoft has competition. They're just better marketers.


Not really. When's the last time you saw a Windows ad? The reality is
that Microsoft is basically a monopoly--whether you might consider it to
be de facto or government-sanctioned. When governments and companies
mandate a Windows-only standard, that effectively shuts out all other
competition. When folks buy home PCs, they buy what's being used at
work.

Even back in the days before Windows, when PCs ran MS-DOS, Apple was
being displaced in the home as more companies issued PCs to the grunt
workforce, despite the fact that Apple's machines were still heavily
used in education.

Apple knows that they have a much better mouse trap with Mac OS X.
Their retail stores are their best marketing effort yet, and they've
been producing positive results in market share. Apple is in no way
"giving in" to Microsoft by advertising that Macs can run Windows; just
the opposite, they are using that advantage as a marketing tool to
remove the "risk" out of investing in a Mac. If you buy a Mac and don't
like OS X, you can still run Windows. Apple is betting that not many
Macs will be running Windows as their primary operating system, and I
suspect they are right.



JKG
 




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