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Old August 21st 06, 03:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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So, if you are wanted for murder should they flag your DL?

No, if I am wanted for murder, I don't want to get caught.

I have no problem with certain things being flags on the DL - murder
being one example. However, the list is too easy to expand. Terrorism?
(based on TSA's secret criteria?) Child molestation? Skinny dipping?
Skinny dipping with children? Your children?

Drug lords? Drug mules? Suspicion of pot smoking? Neighbor complaints
about unkempt lawns and "strange smells"?

There is due process, but I've seen that due process abused too often
for me to be comfortable allowing the authorities to flag common
activities. For that matter, why not flag credit cards, library cards,
and Stop-and-shop cards? It would be extremely effective, and not a bad
deterrent to boot.

Jose
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Old August 21st 06, 04:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message
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So, if you are wanted for murder should they flag your DL?


No, if I am wanted for murder, I don't want to get caught.

I have no problem with certain things being flags on the DL - murder being
one example. However, the list is too easy to expand. Terrorism? (based
on TSA's secret criteria?) Child molestation? Skinny dipping? Skinny
dipping with children? Your children?

Drug lords? Drug mules? Suspicion of pot smoking? Neighbor complaints
about unkempt lawns and "strange smells"?

There is due process, but I've seen that due process abused too often for
me to be comfortable allowing the authorities to flag common activities.
For that matter, why not flag credit cards, library cards, and
Stop-and-shop cards? It would be extremely effective, and not a bad
deterrent to boot.


How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will cover both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.


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Old August 21st 06, 05:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will cover both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.


And jaywalkers.

Jose
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Old August 21st 06, 06:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Jose wrote:
How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will cover both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.


And jaywalkers.


So if someone has an outstanding warrent for jaywalking you do not want
that information provided to law enforcement persons when they run a
warrent check on you???

-Robert

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Old August 21st 06, 07:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ps.com...

Jose wrote:
How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will cover
both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.


And jaywalkers.


So if someone has an outstanding warrent for jaywalking you do not want
that information provided to law enforcement persons when they run a
warrent check on you???

-Robert


If the person has an outstanding warrant and hasn't paid the fine or
no-showed for court why not. Do you think the state has no right to use
methods to capture those who break its laws?


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Old August 21st 06, 10:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
So if someone has an outstanding warrent for jaywalking you do not want

that information provided to law enforcement persons when they run a
warrent check on you???

-Robert


If the person has an outstanding warrant and hasn't paid the fine or
no-showed for court why not. Do you think the state has no right to use
methods to capture those who break its laws?


You're preaching to the choir.

-Robert

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Old August 21st 06, 11:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Emily[_1_]
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ps.com...
Jose wrote:
How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will cover
both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.
And jaywalkers.

So if someone has an outstanding warrent for jaywalking you do not want
that information provided to law enforcement persons when they run a
warrent check on you???

-Robert


If the person has an outstanding warrant and hasn't paid the fine or
no-showed for court why not. Do you think the state has no right to use
methods to capture those who break its laws?


The problem is, some of the laws they are enforcing aren't
Constitutional and no one has done a damn thing about it.
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Old August 22nd 06, 02:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ps.com...
Jose wrote:
How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will
cover both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.
And jaywalkers.
So if someone has an outstanding warrent for jaywalking you do not want
that information provided to law enforcement persons when they run a
warrent check on you???

-Robert


If the person has an outstanding warrant and hasn't paid the fine or
no-showed for court why not. Do you think the state has no right to use
methods to capture those who break its laws?

The problem is, some of the laws they are enforcing aren't Constitutional
and no one has done a damn thing about it.


Name one that has ever had an effect on someone's DL.


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Old August 22nd 06, 04:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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So you are saying if someone has a warrent for their arrest for a crime
against a law you think might be unconstitutional your solution to
fixing that issue is not to allow law enforcement officers access to
that information when they run a DL during a traffic stop????
Just plain crazy!

-Robert


Emily wrote:
The problem is, some of the laws they are enforcing aren't
Constitutional and no one has done a damn thing about it.


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Old August 21st 06, 11:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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How about "people who are wanted for breaking the law?" That will cover
both
people wanted for INS violations and murders.


And jaywalkers.


Now you are just being inflamitory.

Why is everything so black and white for you?

There will always be some gray areas, but us *rational* people (notice I am
not including you) can surely see that immigration violations and jaywalking
are of a totally different nature.
--
Jim in NC


 




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