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  #191  
Old September 16th 06, 06:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Skylune,

You forgot: In the little planes - you fly!

In the little planes, you will waste at least $100K between the training,
equipment, insurance, gas, etc.


Care to back up those numbers (which are completely bogus)?

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  #192  
Old September 16th 06, 06:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Mxsmanic,

Unfortunately, aviation is much more complicated, restrictive, and
expensive now, even for private pilots


You couldn't be more wrong. Back then, flying airplanes was
unaffordable for the vast majority of the population. Not the case
today.

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  #193  
Old September 16th 06, 06:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Mxsmanic,

If you hit the ground at just the right speed, you bounce. Hit it any
harder, and you crash. Hit it more softly, and you have a nice
landing.


Only in simulation...

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  #194  
Old September 16th 06, 06:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 17:16:56 GMT, Jose
wrote in :

I think you set it up as a speed trap for reading.

I included the link to the six references to speed trap, so that you
would see that they are not permitted in California...


"It was a joke, son."


I saw little humor in it. Sorry.

  #195  
Old September 16th 06, 07:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Margy Natalie
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Larry Dighera writes:


Personally, I chose to reside ten minutes from the airport, so the
drive is not too bad.



A good solution if you have the option. But most people are
constrained to live far from airports. The closest airport for me is
about 12 miles away, as the crow (er, aircraft) flies.

The ideal would be to live in one of those cool airparks where
everyone has a driveway in front and a taxiway out back, but how many
people can afford to do that?


Generally the air time used exceeds the minimum daily flight time the
FBO charges, so it's a non issue.



But what about the time the aircraft is on the ground, away from its
home base, over the course of the weekend?


You aren't getting it. If the FBO has a 2 hr. per day minimum and you
take the airplane for a week you are expected to put 14 hours flying
time on it. So, for example, if you want to take a week long jaunt you
can fly 4 hours the first day, 0 the second, 6 the third, 0 the fourth,
0the fifth, 2 the sixth and two the seventh. The plane sits like the
rental car.

You pay your 14 hours and you are good.

Margy


Arrangements can be made to do that, but why would one want to? For
extended stays?



If you are actually using an aircraft as transportation, chances are
that you won't just be turning around and flying back once you arrive
at your destination. Chances are, in fact, that the aircraft will be
sitting at the destination airport for one or more days, just like a
rental car.

  #196  
Old September 16th 06, 07:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Chris W
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Chris W writes:


That is why it exaggerates your head movements. You rotate your head
just a little, and the game head rotates a long way. You never are
looking very far off the center of the monitor. For me the farthest I
rotate my head, is so my head is pointing to the edge of my monitor.
That way I don't need to move my eyes very far at all to keep them on
the center of the screen. It is amazingly natural. If you try it, you
will never go back to not using it. It really is that good.



It would have to have incredibly high framerates and response time,
otherwise I'd probably get motion sickness, just as I did with Doom
long ago.


I always got motion sickness with doom too, but not with this thing in
MSFS. If you are like me you will get a head ache the first 3 or 4
times you use it but once you get used to it, that stops happening.
Even if I haven't used in a long time I don't get the head ache I got
when I first got it. A friend of my reports pretty much the same thing,
getting a head ache for the first 3 or 4 times.

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  #197  
Old September 16th 06, 07:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
Larry Dighera wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:55:21 GMT, Jose
wrote in :

Where have you?


Most FBOs will gladly arrange to accommodate one-way flights (for a
price).

Granted, I'm not reading the entire thread, but that would not appear to
be legal.


Whay's not to be legal? I have knowledge of numerous such flights.


  #198  
Old September 16th 06, 07:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Chris W
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Chris W wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:

Chris W writes:


That is why it exaggerates your head movements. You rotate your head
just a little, and the game head rotates a long way. You never are
looking very far off the center of the monitor. For me the farthest
I rotate my head, is so my head is pointing to the edge of my
monitor. That way I don't need to move my eyes very far at all to
keep them on the center of the screen. It is amazingly natural. If
you try it, you will never go back to not using it. It really is
that good.




It would have to have incredibly high framerates and response time,
otherwise I'd probably get motion sickness, just as I did with Doom
long ago.


If you live anywhere near Oklahoma City, you are welcome to come over
and try mine. Just be warned if you do, you will never want to fly with
out it again.

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  #199  
Old September 16th 06, 07:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Larry Dighera writes:

Most people are not pilots.


Even those who are pilots are rarely in a position to choose to live
close to an airport, unless they pilot planes for a living.

Le Bourget is only abut half that far from the center of Paris. It's
a choice.


None of them are close in time. It can take three hours to drive out
to an airport. I could be on the coast of the Atlantic in 45 minutes
or so of air time, even in a private plane, but it would take two or
three hours to get to the departure airport and another two hours to
get out of the destination airport. So that's six hours for a trip
that can be done in about two hours by car.

I like aviation, but I'm not fond of noise.


Just install ANR windows. Although, if you live next to John
Travolta, that might not be enough.

The _ideal_ would be to
reside on enough acreage to have your own private runway and hangar on
your property:


Ideal, yes, but it does illustrate how impractical flying can be for
transportation.

What about it? If the FBO requires a minimum two hours daily flight
time, and it is more than two hours to your destination, you will
clock more than four hours over two days.


How much does it cost per hour?

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  #200  
Old September 16th 06, 07:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

I still prefer to look out a real window and follow rivers
and streams. Roads and railroads are to straight.


What's wrong with being straight?

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