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Old October 14th 06, 04:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Emily writes:

Next thing I know, he'll probably be arguing that the reference I posted is
incorrect.


Not incorrect (I haven't verified it, but a copy and paste is easy
enough to do), but it says nothing about engines. My question was
whether regulations required anticollision lights or beacons to be lit
whenever engines are operating. I know it seems to be a standard
policy, but I don't know if it is mandatory, especially for GA
aircraft.

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Old October 14th 06, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

I don't run strobes in IMC at night because the flashing
back scatter causes me problems. I also don't run strobes
near other airplanes on the ground at night because it
blinds the other pilot.


Under what conditions are strobes supposed to be useful? Seeing
aircraft from great distances, maybe? (In clear weather, or maybe
not.)

I do run normal positions lights and rotating beacons. At
night I also run recognition lights if I have them.


What are recognition lights?

Some of the planes I flew had logo
lights on the tail and I would run them too.


Some of the aircraft in MSFS have ice lights. I presume those are
used only when you want to look for ice on the wing?

I also get confused about avionics, panel, and flood lights, but I
suppose that varies greatly from one aircraft to another.

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Old October 14th 06, 04:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Robert Chambers writes:

Haha, in a 737... you mean in Bill Gates somewhat grainy representation
of a 737 you mean.


No, I mean in Precision Manuals' extremely faithful representation of
a 737-800.

prior to engine start the beacon goes on, once you start up if it's
night time put all the lights on for taxi, if there are others that
might be impacted by the strobes turn them off, if you're flying in a
cloud (or in your case a pretend cloud) turn the strobes off to prevent
the reflection of the strobes from giving you vertigo - you might fall
off your chair.


What about landing lights? When do you turn them on, and when do you
turn them off? (Obviously they are on during take-off and landing,
but I mean outside of that.)

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Old October 14th 06, 05:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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LOL
"Spam Magnet" wrote in message
...
| In article Ly7Yg.2988$XX2.2011@dukeread04,
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| He should setup his sim at a disco/nudie bar. Plenty of
| smoke to simulate IMC, strobe lights and distractions.
|
|
| No dice. Discos and nudie bars have real live girls. They
| scare him.
|


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Old October 14th 06, 05:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Emily writes:

Maybe I'll do that tonight!!!!! Except I can't play MSFS without
crashing it anyway, so that's probably a bad experiment.


What do you find difficult about flying in MSFS?

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Old October 14th 06, 05:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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There are pilots who are just inconsiderate.


"Emily" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| I don't run strobes in IMC at night because the flashing
| back scatter causes me problems. I also don't run
strobes
| near other airplanes on the ground at night because it
| blinds the other pilot. I do run normal positions
lights
| and rotating beacons. At night I also run recognition
| lights if I have them. Some of the planes I flew had
logo
| lights on the tail and I would run them too.
|
| I think most pilots have problems with strobes in IMC at
night. I don't
| run them then or on the ground but I know a few who do. An
beacon is
| sufficient to meet the regs in both those cases, although
I'm sure there
| are some pilots who think strobes are required at all
times. There's no
| other explanation for those few blinding the rest of us on
the ground.


  #27  
Old October 14th 06, 05:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Who really knows. Did you ever see that movie about the guy
who scammed the airlines and a bunch of college girls?

True story.


"Emily" wrote in message
. ..
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| I do get the feeling that he is a future suicide
hijacker
| and he wants to blend in around real pilots.
|
| Wouldn't a real hijacker just research this on this own so
as to not
| arouse suspicion? Or at least pretend to be a student
pilot....


  #28  
Old October 14th 06, 05:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:


Nothing in this quoted section mentions engines, so it doesn't answer
my question.


Those are the regulations. As it doesn't mention engines, there
is no requirement having anything to do with engines. Many people
put the beacon on when the master (not the engine) is turned on.
I used to do that as well (it's also a good reminder that your
master is on after you get out of the plane). However, I only
have strobes now, and I don't run those until I'm on the runway
now.
  #29  
Old October 14th 06, 05:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Kingfish writes:

Hmmm. Do you turn on your virtual strobe before you start your virtual
engine, so as not to endanger anyone with your virtual prop?


I turn on the beacon. I understood that the strobe is for low
visibility conditions and that a lot of pilots are irritated by
strobes operating on the ground. Whereas the beacon simply indicates
that the engines are turning (in addition to improving visibility).

You are wroing on just about all counts except for the part about
being irritated by strobes on the ground.
  #30  
Old October 14th 06, 05:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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Ron Natalie writes:

Those are the regulations. As it doesn't mention engines, there
is no requirement having anything to do with engines.


OK, thanks.

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