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Old November 6th 06, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
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Default New transponder mode S vs. mode C

Mike Schumann wrote:
You need a graphic display device, like a Garmin 430 to see traffic.
Beware. The FAA has announced that new radars will not support the Traffic
Info function, so the main advantage of Mode S will be gone. I would opt
for a low cost solution, as eventually ADS-B will obsolete both Mode S and
Mode C transponders.


I read somewhere that mode S transponders were going to be the data-link
platform for ADS-B, though it wasn't clear if all mode S transponders
would be capable of it. Has the FAA chosen some other other platform?

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Old November 7th 06, 03:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Schumann
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Default New transponder mode S vs. mode C

Mode S and ADS-B are completely different technologies.

Mike Schumann

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Mike Schumann wrote:
You need a graphic display device, like a Garmin 430 to see traffic.
Beware. The FAA has announced that new radars will not support the
Traffic Info function, so the main advantage of Mode S will be gone. I
would opt for a low cost solution, as eventually ADS-B will obsolete both
Mode S and Mode C transponders.


I read somewhere that mode S transponders were going to be the data-link
platform for ADS-B, though it wasn't clear if all mode S transponders
would be capable of it. Has the FAA chosen some other other platform?

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA
Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly

"Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/articles.html

"A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org



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Old November 7th 06, 04:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
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Default New transponder mode S vs. mode C

Mike Schumann wrote:
Mode S and ADS-B are completely different technologies.


Potentially some overlap, though. I found this on the AOPA website,
dated July 5, 2006:

Also, in the United States the FAA chose UAT — universal access
transceiver — as the ADS-B datalink for general aviation. Australia
chose to use as its ADS-B datalink the 1090-MHz Mode S extended
squitter system. Mode S extended squitter does not have nearly the
data capacity of UAT, nor is it as robust.


What adds some confusion to this is the airliners will be using mode S
for the ADS-B datalink. From AOPA again:

A second ADS-B datalink is the 1090 Mode S Extended Squitter. The
1090 ADS-B datalink will be used by the airlines (which already have
Mode S systems they can upgrade).


So, it looks like general aviation types like us will be using the UAT
instead of mode S. Given that, buying mode S won't even be useful for a
USA pilot that wants to add ADS-B when it becomes available.

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