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On 21 Dec 2006 11:04:34 -0800, "Robert M. Gary"
wrote: wrote: On 20 Dec 2006 09:30:34 -0800, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: Also, as I've indicated previously, if the service facility considers a .407 flight necessary, it must write it into the maintenance record sign-off as such, and the bird is not approved for return to service until after that flight is performed and duly noted. I just had my aileron replaced at the factory service center this last summer. I'll double check my log books but I believe there are two sign offs. The first is the IA who signed off the work, the second is the test pilot who signed off the test flight. sig snip Which takes us all the way back to your original question: On 19 Dec 2006 13:30:20 -0800, "Robert M. Gary" wrote: snip Isn't that required by regulation (although only minimum crew is allowed)? Doesn't the pilot have to sign the aircraft log as RTS after the break in? sig snip I am by no means saying that a 91.407 flight MAY be performed after just about ANY maintenance. What I am trying (obviously unsuccessfully) to point out that it is NOT required by regulation for approval for return to service. Also, that I could/would (and in other similiar situations have allegedly actually had to) stand nose-to-nose with the FAA and tell them to pack sand if they told me it WAS required. The only way that it would be clearly required by regulation is under Sec. 43.13 Performance rules (general). (a) Each person performing maintenance, alteration, or preventive maintenance on an aircraft, engine, propeller, or appliance shall use the methods, techniques, and practices prescribed in the current manufacturer's maintenance manual or Instructions for Continued Airworthiness prepared by its manufacturer, or other methods, techniques, and practices acceptable to the Administrator, except as noted in Sec. 43.16. He shall use the tools, equipment, and test apparatus necessary to assure completion of the work in accordance with accepted industry practices. If special equipment or test apparatus is recommended by the manufacturer involved, he must use that equipment or apparatus or its equivalent acceptable to the Administrator. Again, if the AMM states that a flight test be performed after a specific maintenance task, it must be performed prior to approval for return to service. Again, on specific aircraft, there are specific tasks that do call out a flight test. Again, I can NOT speak for the AMM on your particular aircraft, but I personally have NEVER seen an AMM that requires a flight test after an engine change. I also seriously doubt that your Mooney AMM requires a flight test after a flight control surface R/R. If it IS called for in your specific AMM, then I am 100% WRONG, and a flight test IS required by regulation. If the approved repair station manual at a Pt 145 maintenance facility for some strange reason requires a flight test, then again, I am 100% WRONG and in this case a flight test IS also required. While I have allegedly inspected/maintained/operated Pt 91 aircraft type certificated under CAR3 & Pt 23, inspected/maintained Pt 135 aircraft under CAR3 & Pt 23, and inspected/maintained Pt 91 aircraft under Pt 25 using my own hypothetical tickets; I have never had the pleasure of working under a Pt 145 "roof". If you're not sure what all that means, ask Mr. Weir. As the Weir-meister has indirectly pointed out, the majority of 91.407 rides are performed because the certificated technician/authorized inspector/repair station QA person responsible for the work has decided that (s)he will sleep better at night with a .407 sign-off in the aircraft maintenance record. I positively agree in these cases that 91.407 can be used as a justification for a test flight, but still cannot agree that it is REQUIRED after routine maintenance unless the above condition (AMM call out) exists. In the past, I have allegedly performed major airframe alterations under the STC/337 process that have absolutely positively "appreciably changed its flight characteristics" AND "substantially affected its operation in flight" and approved them for return to service without a 91.407 flight. Vortex generator installations, for instance-as Mr. Noel pointed out, another example is an STC'd engine upgrade. Again, unless the approved installation instructions specifically require a flight test, it is up to the judgement of the warm body responsible under the CFR, it is not required by the CFR. TC |
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