Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:47:55 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011108475575249-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

Quit spouting the terrorist line, Larry, or tell us how to fight a war
without killing civilians.

I speak for myself alone.

I notice you didn't take issue with any of my assertions.

I guess you can't face the truth.

"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


I notice you didn't take issue with any of my assertions.

....Just as you chose not to address any of Jay's actual questions. As usual,
you take any opportunity to spout anti-Bush/anti-military rhetoric. Really,
it's OK. It's part of your persona we've come to expect.

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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:36:47 -0500, "John T"
wrote in
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message


I notice you didn't take issue with any of my assertions.

...Just as you chose not to address any of Jay's actual questions.

I just thought Mr. Honeck might want to know that what he wrote was
incorrect. Does he really need you as a spokesman?

As usual, you take any opportunity to spout anti-Bush/anti-military rhetoric.

If you choose to infer that from what I wrote, it is you who is
characterizing the situation that way. I merely stated the facts as I
believed them to be at the time.

And why do you see calling Mr. Bush 'erudite as being anti-Bush?

Really, it's OK.

So now you're giving me your approval to exercise my right to free
speech? Please.

It's part of your persona we've come to expect.

Who are among the group you refer to as 'we'?

On 2007-01-11 09:22:49 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 08:47:55 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011108475575249-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

Quit spouting the terrorist line, Larry, or tell us how to fight a war
without killing civilians.

I speak for myself alone.
I notice you didn't take issue with any of my assertions.

I guess you can't face the truth.

Well, that one terrorist sure managed to put up a heck of a fight, eh?
Even the combined armies of Somalia and Ethiopia were unable to enter
the area. But, come on, even bin Laden claims to be a "civilian." No
doubt, when he is killed, you will be bewailing yet another "civilian"
death. The other assertion was that Bush was "eriadite," which I
understood to be a sarcastic reference to your belief that he is
stupid. It would help if you would learn to spell before you start
calling other people stupid.

Your anti-Bush rhetoric is extremely cynical. It would be interesting
to know if your views differ from that of the terrorists in any
material whatsoever. So far, on this group anyway, you have agreed with
them 100%.

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting. With any luck at all, you all would get
elected and you would be left with the problem of actually having to do
something instead of heckling from the back rows.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.

I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

Oh I forgot; Mormons don't follow his teachings. They are polygamists
who believe their special underwear is fundamental to their faith. :-)

On 2007-01-11 16:49:26 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.

I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

Oh I forgot; Mormons don't follow his teachings. They are polygamists
who believe their special underwear is fundamental to their faith. :-)

I see. You are also a bigot. Hate any other religious groups or races?

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:52:26 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116522627544-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

On 2007-01-11 16:49:26 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.

I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

Oh I forgot; Mormons don't follow his teachings. They are polygamists
who believe their special underwear is fundamental to their faith. :-)

I see. You are also a bigot. Hate any other religious groups or races?

If you infer hate in what I wrote, that says more about you than me.
I just speak the truth.

You just can't face the truth. Think about it for a while. Perhaps
when your anger subsides, you'll see that my comments are _factual_.

Yours, on the other hand, are the _subjective_ opinions.

On 2007-01-11 17:06:16 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:52:26 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116522627544-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

On 2007-01-11 16:49:26 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.

I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

Oh I forgot; Mormons don't follow his teachings. They are polygamists
who believe their special underwear is fundamental to their faith. :-)

I see. You are also a bigot. Hate any other religious groups or races?

If you infer hate in what I wrote, that says more about you than me. I
just speak the truth.
You just can't face the truth. Think about it for a while. Perhaps
when your anger subsides, you'll see that my comments are _factual_.

Yours, on the other hand, are the _subjective_ opinions.

You have a lot of nerve telling me what I believe. You do not speak the
truth. It is you that cannot face the truth. You have made unfounded
generalizations about me because of my religion. That constitutes
bigotry. I am not a polygamist. The term "Mormon" properly refers to
members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, none of
whom are polygamists. Polygamists are excommunicated from that church.

Mormons are Christians and we do believe that we follow the teachings
of Jesus Christ -- all of them, not a few selected for personal or
political convenience. Your saying otherwise is a deliberate
misrepresentation.

I would no more make fun of a man's underwear than I would a cross, a
crescent, or any other sacred symbol. I would consider that bigotry.
You are a bigot who cannot face the truth about himself.

So, you have deliberately misrepresented my religious beliefs on three
counts and you have been called on it. And yet you accuse me of having
subjective opinions. You want to keep this up or are you just going to
slink off back into some cave to lick your wounds?

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:21:17 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011118211750878-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

First, let me say, that from reading your articles over the years, I
would characterize you _personally_ as a warm, gregarious,
intelligent, knowledgeable, individual. Certainly, as a flight
instructor, you have my sincere respect and admiration.

But when I see someone embracing irrational beliefs, it angers me,
because they blindly choose to deny reality, and that very denial of
rational thinking ENABLES those in power to commit unpardonable acts
against humanity, much as the irrational religious beliefs of the
Muslims are used to whip them into an irrational anti-American frenzy.

I would no more make fun of a man's underwear than I would a cross, a
crescent, or any other sacred symbol.

Perhaps it's time you examined your reticence. It may be considered
polite to overlook irrationality, but it only serves to support it. In
my opinion, it is more noble to embrace truth at the risk of censure,
than remain silent in an effort to escape ridicule. Irrational belief
is an INSULT to those who would embrace the truth.

I would consider that bigotry.

I characterize exposing irrational beliefs, regardless of where they
are found, as a service supported by the fact, that if the 'Decider'
hadn't been blinded by his irrational beliefs:

According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me
to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me
to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve
the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if
not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

Bush would have followed the enlightened teachings of his savior,
instead of using his faith and irrational beliefs to cause
reinforcement of negative world opinion toward the US at this critical
time in history. Our nation would today enjoy the world's public
support, instead of it's fear and distrust, if Bush had heeded the
WRITTEN words of Christ, and been capable of appreciating the futility
of this war, instead of listening to the irrational VOICES IN HIS
HEAD.

His misconceived policies have directly caused our nation to expend
over three billion dollars a week to wage his hopeless vendetta, so
that your children and their children will be paying for his fiasco
long after you are dead.

What is viewed by the world as the "war president's" global
expansionism, at the very time when our nation has been left as the
world's last remaining superpower, gives the appearance to the world
of a megalomaniac desire for world domination. Instead of fulfilling
the leadership role appropriate to a nation that possesses unlimited
power and respects the dignity of human life, our nation is being lead
down the same unenlightened path that has plagued our species since
time immemorial. The world's people find Bush's actions frightening,
and fear breeds hate, hate directed toward our once noble nation.

And now that Bush has gone and "kicked the tar baby", and caused our
great nation to become mired in the butchery occurring in Iraq, and
the injustice of suspending judicial due process, and condoning
torture, and spying on our nation's citizens without benefit of legal
warrant, and ..., I am FORCED TO SUPPORT HIS FAILED POLICY or risk
even worse consequences. I'm not willing to sit quietly by any
longer, for to do so is to condone the transgressions against the
noble, enlightened foundations upon which our nation is predicated.

We must reclaim our nation from the influences of corporate greed such
as that committed by Bush's buddy Lay, the crimes of congressional
corruption such as that typified by DeLay and Cunningham, and the
powerful influence of irrational religious belief wielded by perverted
shamans, or face inevitable decline.

I'm tired of seeing our nation run by people who support the hypocrisy
of preachers Haggard and Robertson, and Baker, and Fallwell, and
Swaggart . I'm appalled by the sex crimes committed against the
children of their parishioners permitted to occur for decades by
Catholic shamans. Much as the irrational religious beliefs of the
Muslims is used to whip the faithful into an irrational anti-American
frenzy in the name of those same type of irrational beliefs, the
irrational religious beliefs of the people of our nation are used to
control us. Religious hypocrisy is not only a blatant fact, it has a
long standing history. Isn't it time we shrugged off the VOODOO of
our cave welling ancestors, and embraced TRUTH AND RATIONAL THOUGHT?
Please.

RATIONAL, THINKING PEOPLE ARE VICTOMS OF THOSE WHO ARE ABLE TO WIELD
THEIR POWER UNJUSTLY AS A RESULT OF THE IRRATIONAL BELIEFS HELD BY THE
SHEEP WHO SURRENDER THEIR COMMON SENSE TO CHARLOTINS.

Being made a VICTOM OF IRRATIONAL THOUGHT angers me, and I'm willing
to suffer public ridicule resulting from speaking against the
political-correctness used to silence the truth, and expose the lies
of irrational thinking wherever they present themselves. Today I am
able to do that, unlike Galileo who was persecuted by the clergy for
the truth he discovered and unselfishly wished to share with the
world. It's time rationally thinking people had the courage denounce
the irrational thinkers in our midst and speak out publicly against
irrational thought.

You are a bigot who cannot face the truth about himself.

Why is it that religion is so quick to mislabel anyone who threatens
their power with some negative epitaph? Next you'll be calling me a
heathen and heretic for exposing the truth. Don't feel threatened by
the truth; find the courage to embrace it. In the long run, there is
no other real choice but truth.

I was hoping to get your attention, and point out the fact that many
people possess irrational views even today. And it seems you may be
one of them.

I am OUTRAGED by our president's using a foundation of deliberate
lies, much like religious leaders do, to plunge our nation into a
quagmire from which it will take decades to extricate ourselves. And
this is at the cost of the lives of brave citizens and the trillions
of dollars that could better be spent on constructive things like the
improvement of our nations pathetic educational system.

That is something that would truly benefit our country and the world,
and permit our nation to slip the shackles of ignorance, and
benevolently lead the way to world prosperity and justice in the 21st
century. But the public funds necessary to accomplish constructive
good have now been and are being SQUANDERED on useless destruction.
Destructive war is a travesty, and it only begets more war. Christ
delivered that truth ("turn the other cheek") to the world, but those
who claim to follow him haven't _yet_ learned that important lesson.

To see someone inaccurately defending Bush amounts to a distortion of
reality, and dishonesty rooted in the same sort of irrational
religiosity currently engaged in by 90% of our nation's citizens. Wake
up man. Face the truth. The MAGICAL THINKERS are in control of the
world, and they're causing pain and death wherever they spread their
irrational lies. Cast off the archaic dogma, and embrace objective,
rational thought. You don't need dogma. You're too bright for any
more of that tripe! You're an enlightened citizen of the 21st
century. Think!

It is the power of irrational belief to ENABLE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR that
I seek to expose.

/rant-

On 2007-01-11 17:06:16 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:52:26 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116522627544-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

On 2007-01-11 16:49:26 -0800, Larry Dighera said:

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 16:22:18 -0800, Christopher Campbell
wrote in
2007011116221843658-christophercampbelldeletethis@hotmailcom:

You might want to think about some of the idiocy you and the rest of
the extreme left are spouting.

I'm not spouting any idiocy; I'm reporting the facts as I understand
them to be.

It is you who should consider the words of a wise man who's quoted
throughout the world: "Turn the other cheek"

Oh I forgot; Mormons don't follow his teachings. They are polygamists
who believe their special underwear is fundamental to their faith. :-)

I see. You are also a bigot. Hate any other religious groups or races?

If you infer hate in what I wrote, that says more about you than me. I
just speak the truth.
You just can't face the truth. Think about it for a while. Perhaps
when your anger subsides, you'll see that my comments are _factual_.

Yours, on the other hand, are the _subjective_ opinions.

One other thing you might want to think about before mouthing off again
about those 'conservative Mormons' you hate would be just who the most
prominent 'Mormon' politicians are these days. Harry Reid, for example,
is hardly a conservative. Mitt Romney, though he may be a Republican,
does not seem too conservative for extremely liberal Massachussetts,
what with his support for socialized medicine and other liberal causes.
Even Orrin Hatch of Utah is close friends and has co-sponsored numerous
bills with that bastion of conservatism, Ted Kennedy.

So, tell you what. Get lost. Stop posting your odious, obnoxious,
useless anti-Bush tripe, get an education and learn a little bit about
what you are talking about. And above all, try taking a course on
cultural tolerance.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor