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Old January 11th 07, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bill Watson
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

Jim Macklin wrote:
The FAA commercial maneuver known as Turns On A Point. It
is done by using pivotal altitude.

and using pitch to adjust for wind. A fun and rewarding maneuver.

So, what is pivotal altitude for AC-130 flying at what? 200+? knots

The faster, the higher, the better, I would guess.



"Montblack" wrote
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| ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
| The recent obliteration of the Somali chapter of Al
Queda by an AC-130
| gunship (See
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm if you
| don't know what one looks like) got me wondering how,
exactly, one
| would pilot such a craft during an attack.
|
|
| http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16576458/
| Ooooh, so close.
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| Would you like to take another shot at winning your gal
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| Teddy Bear? All it takes to "win" is ONE BBBBILLION
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| Who's next? How 'bout you fella?
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Old January 11th 07, 10:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

AOPA Online Instructor Reports - Pivotal Altitude Explained
....
Pivotal altitude depends on groundspeed. The faster
the groundspeed, ... To estimate pivotal altitude, square
the groundspeed and then divide by 15 if you ...
http://www.aopa.org/asf/publications...fm?article=226
- 26k - Cached - Similar pages

To estimate pivotal altitude, square the groundspeed
and then divide by 15 if you use mph, or 11.3 if you prefer
knots.
That will provide a starting altitude. For example,
100 mph times 100 equals 10,000, divided by 15 equals 666
feet approximate
pivotal altitude. A groundspeed of 95 mph results in a
pivotal altitude of 600 feet.
Hence, traveling at 100 mph on the fast side, pivotal
altitude is 666 feet. On the slower side-the side into the
wind-95 mph results in a
pivotal altitude that is 60 feet lower than the fast
side.


Using mph 200^2 is 40,000/15 equals 2666.66 and 300 needs
6,000 feet. A Cub is down around 500 feet. But 200 knots
gives 3539 feet and 300 knots needs 7965, high about small
arms, but still range of shoulder fired missiles.

Of course the C-130 can carry the Daisy Cutter and MOAB to
really clear the area.




"Bill Watson" wrote in message
...
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| The FAA commercial maneuver known as Turns On A Point.
It
| is done by using pivotal altitude.
|
| and using pitch to adjust for wind. A fun and rewarding
maneuver.
|
| So, what is pivotal altitude for AC-130 flying at what?
200+? knots
|
| The faster, the higher, the better, I would guess.
|
|
|
| "Montblack"
wrote
| in message ...
| | ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
| | The recent obliteration of the Somali chapter of Al
| Queda by an AC-130
| | gunship (See
| http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/ac-130.htm if you
| | don't know what one looks like) got me wondering
how,
| exactly, one
| | would pilot such a craft during an attack.
| |
| |
| | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16576458/
| | Ooooh, so close.
| |
| | Would you like to take another shot at winning your
gal
| that big stuffed
| | Teddy Bear? All it takes to "win" is ONE BBBBILLION
| dollars. Who'll play.
| | Who's next? How 'bout you fella?
| |
| |
| | Montblack
| |
| |
|
|


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Old January 11th 07, 11:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

Of course the C-130 can carry the Daisy Cutter and MOAB to
really clear the area.


The what?
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Old January 11th 07, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

The what?

MOAB. Mother Of All Bombs. Also known as the Massive Ordnance Air
Burst. It's a Big Bomb. I think it may even be the biggest non-nuclear
one we make.

Jay, you've never heard of it?

Jose
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Old January 11th 07, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

MOAB. Mother Of All Bombs. Also known as the Massive Ordnance Air
Burst. It's a Big Bomb. I think it may even be the biggest non-nuclear
one we make.

Jay, you've never heard of it?


Is that the so-called "fuel-air" bomb, like they used in the movie
"Outbreak"?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old January 12th 07, 12:13 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

Is that the so-called "fuel-air" bomb, like they used in the movie
"Outbreak"?


I don't know. I thought it was conventional explosives.

Jose
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He who laughs, lasts.
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Old January 12th 07, 05:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

Fuel-air bombs or MOAB mix a gaseous or powdered explosive
with air in a cloud and then the cloud is detonated.

It is conventional and not nuclear. But it may have a
kiloton rating.



"Jose" wrote in message
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| Is that the so-called "fuel-air" bomb, like they used in
the movie
| "Outbreak"?
|
| I don't know. I thought it was conventional explosives.
|
| Jose
| --
| He who laughs, lasts.
| for Email, make the obvious change in the address.


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Old January 12th 07, 02:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mortimer Schnerd, RN[_2_]
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

Jay Honeck wrote:
MOAB. Mother Of All Bombs. Also known as the Massive Ordnance Air
Burst. It's a Big Bomb. I think it may even be the biggest non-nuclear
one we make.

Jay, you've never heard of it?


Is that the so-called "fuel-air" bomb, like they used in the movie
"Outbreak"?



Even bigger. It was first demonstrated after the movie came out. But you've
got the idea.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com


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Old January 11th 07, 11:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Clear
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Default Piloting an AC-130 Spectre

In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote:
Of course the C-130 can carry the Daisy Cutter and MOAB to
really clear the area.


The what?


Daisy Cutter is a 15,000 lbs bomb:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BLU-82

MOAB (Mother of all Bombs, 21,000lbs):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOAB

John
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